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Post by Administrator on Apr 21, 2016 23:28:10 GMT
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Post by Administrator on Apr 21, 2016 23:32:59 GMT
well, i think i have proved the devices 27mph speed as wrong anyway.. because my drive by time at 27mph was with a different position for the 2nd photo place and also the device has calculated the speed by time as 26.8mph, not 27mph which is not 100% correct. Also, i still have not done tyre size experiments and we do not know if the inductive loops are double cable or single cable to detect tyre size and spacing. I wonder if the tyre size is why the reason that the speed is 26.8mph not 27? 4.5cm of distance... But that is the times of the device itself, as my own 27mph drive by was a meter or 2 so different distance.. so that will be the reason anyway.... thus the device is not calibrated for precision measurement of a vehicle of that type. So how can the time be accurate? the 4.5cm might even be the wheel size reason, for timing. while the distance for photo 2 could be the "secret police /council seting / timing scam reason.
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Post by Administrator on Apr 21, 2016 23:48:01 GMT
(i have since found that its the distance of the vehicle from the road surface in regards to the under road loop grid detection (like metal detection) not actual tyre size, but that effect things if your tyres are not full on your speedometer! but i will leave this tyre post on even if its only partially correct, because my own 27mph experiment was correct to prove the traffipax traffiphot III speed reading was wrong anyway. What it means is that the Van i drive covers MORE distance in the TIME than a car! because there is longer diameter of tyre tread!! Thus see REF: PC Farleys dodgy tyre measurements = Chief Simon Byrnes dodgy tyre measurements via dodgy device! Worst thing is that its a set up and the police already know about it. SO.. now i can calculate the actual position of red time 0! at 27 mph i went further than the traffipax camera photos 27mph record of events. Thus i must have been going slower than 27mph, which is confirmed by the satellite tracking speed at the time which is lower... Thus the actual speed was about 24mph or so... which means that if you reverse back to the stop line at that speed in 0.7 seconds i will not be as far back as the 27mph speed! 27mph in 0.7 seconds is 8.4 meters..... 24mph in 0.7 seconds is 7.5 meters! Which is 0.9 meters less! the front portion of the van is 4 meters so 7.5 - 4 = 3.5 meters 3.5 meters before the stop line at 0 RED? And the council traffic light timing is allowed to be in error of 0.25 seconds for each colour which is the distance margin at 24mph in 0.75 seconds of 8.0 meters. (2.6 meters per 0.25 seconds) Get this! if you are going along at about 24mph ish... the councils 0.25 second error allowance will cost you 2.6 meters for each colour phase! So being caught out at 3.5 meters before the stop line is less error on your bealf than the council can get away with! In fact i think that the entire camera set up is bent anyway. And as for Bent beam reflections with the traffipax speedophot camera and the road needing to be straight... How does a human even see the traffic lights? by light waves! and as the straight line to the traffic lights looks shorter as you approach the traffic lights when in fact you have to drive around the curve... that IS BENT BEAM REFLECTIONS TO YOUR EYES! never mind a radar wave camera detector! so in my opinion that is still significant even though the traffiphot III camera is on loop cable detection under the road! which obviously doesnt account for tyre size and the council and police do not provide road markings to help verify and calculate all this from the photos, so in fact it is preventing vehicles with larger wheels to verify the speed! [img src="http://science-a
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Post by Administrator on Apr 22, 2016 0:34:02 GMT
Also whoever stole my little red 457 Stash Shovel (snow shovel) can you give it back please, it got robbed from the van at work. Someone knows who has it. I am certain it was called 457 or something, it is not even appeari8ng in a web search so i cant even buy another one like it. Its a little red shovel with a silver grey and black handle. The handel pops out into 2 pieces. I used to use it to get the van out of snow in winter. It looks a little bit like this.. I have got a new one called a demon shovel, but i dont like it. I liked my 457 one. If you have my shovel i'll swap it for this demon one.
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Post by Administrator on Apr 22, 2016 0:44:25 GMT
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Post by Administrator on Apr 22, 2016 9:16:39 GMT
I should get a little metal detector and find where all the induction loop cables are placed for all traffic light cameras, but i think the BBC are ahead of me.. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04kf095
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Post by Administrator on Apr 22, 2016 11:52:17 GMT
Ok so, here I have found details of experiments with the timing of induction loops under the road connected to traffiphot iii red light camera Link> www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://www.doiserbia.nb.rs/ft.aspx%3Fid%3D0353-36700601147M&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwi749TXjqLMAhUGLcAKHbM6DkkQFggZMAE&sig2=_ON1gTiGCbr0PxV0ovEv0g&usg=AFQjCNFhLHUOHhahZ4neLaOVZPlS4yESHQSo apparently the deley for the camera to be triggered from.the loop signals is claimed to be about 30ms! Which equal is 3 LTI ultralyte pulses! They are claiming that a longer vehicle and a higher vehicle from the road surface both add factors that delay in addition the reaction time of the inductive loops detection of a passing vehicle and that triggering the traffiphot iii unit. And a motorcycle gives a really weak signal to the inductive loop! So, the van I drive IS higher than a car AND twice as long so it IS true that will result in a delayed signal in comparison to a car! And if the van did go over the stop line before 0.1 or 0.7 seconds into red then the time in the police evidence will be in errors! Also they can set the photo itself to be delayed anyway! Which adds dramatic effect to the evidence. So I will not need a metal detector, as its not just one cable under the road, but a grid! And even though a tyre pressure experiment would be interesting, wheel size doesn't effect the measurement, but instead vehicle HEIGHT and LENGTH does! Thus the reason why my photo is further forward in the 27mph speed experiment I did over distance ....and now add to this that the induction loop system and traffiphot iii will not have decided that I had gone through red until a delayed time into red! I will have to refer back to the document to find out exactly how much distance. But this is enough evidence that vehicle HEIGHT results in errors to the cameras timing system!
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Post by Administrator on Apr 22, 2016 12:14:52 GMT
Also, I need to say that after my tyre post in this thread. last night... I was supposed to go to community service today to get an extra day in, as I did todays work yesterday and have a free day! I woke up in time. But after a lil rest it was too late! So I couldnt go to community service as I was too late! Also Someone had punctured my front driver side tyre! And it was flat! Managed to get it blown up at a garage, and went to town. Then got a new tyre! So Someone either the police or a woman or other idiot sabotaged my tyre during the night?! someone put a strange white line across as well. i didnt anyway. Tyre size actually does effect vehicle height from the conductive loops under the road, so its a bit like the floating star wars speeder in "A new hope" when they go to Moss Eisley.. different floating heights, like a hover craft! Also I noticed the sign for the CUE BAR club in Huddersfield looks a bit like a stop line and tyre! Not just a snooker cue and ball! Lol
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Post by Administrator on Apr 22, 2016 12:30:21 GMT
Also with the traffic lights time error. The delay time. The induction loop error margins and the open possibilities for police and councils settings adjustments.... They really have complet control over the offence events and it is not a matter of proving what is possible with the equipment but what the police and council can do, have done and are prepared to do to get drivers.
Which is no less than criminal investigations into police and councils staff. Something
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Post by Administrator on Apr 22, 2016 12:40:24 GMT
Also with the traffic lights time error. The delay time. The induction loop error margins and the open possibilities for police and councils settings adjustments.... They really have complet control over the offence events and it is not a matter of proving what is possible with the equipment but what the police and council can do, have done and are prepared to do to get drivers.
Which is no less than criminal investigations into police and councils staff. Something which they have so far been avoiding or refusing to do.
Also while I was mentioning metal detectors earlier... Check out the Garrett Ace 250 metal detector on ebay! Thinking of the name Frank Garrett Teletraffic uk and trying to detect where the LTI Ultralyte is exactly targeting when used! ? I will let you look for the image!
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Post by Administrator on Apr 22, 2016 13:28:24 GMT
Ok, when i mentioned vehicle LENGTH, I mean length over the distance as this is the OFFESET, which means that if the vehicle is not STRAIGHT over the grid, this effects trigger time as well... And as Macclesfield traffic light camera is on a curved road, this WILL effect the device! so the CURVED BENT ROAD IS IMPORTANT IN THE COMPLAINT ABOUT THE ROAD! as a LORRY will havea GREATER offset over the distance as well! Anyway here is all the text from the report and some photos... Characteristics of inductive loops applied in thelmatics LINK> www.bentcop.biz/traffipaxtraffiphotIIIinductiveloops.pdfSome random U.S.A. report on update of enforcement and speed measuring device (not uk home office) LINK> www.bentcop.biz/update_of_enforcement_and_speed_measuring_devices_us_government.pdfThe only thing about this inductive loop experiment .pdf report is that other than me not being able to check the MATHEMATICS on it... I see NO TRAFFIPAX CAMERA in the Photos?! where is the traffipax camera they tested? I only see inductive loop grid marks on the surface of the tarmac?! There is NO EVIDENCE to the EXPERIMENT that they EVEN FITTED THE LOOPS UNDER THE ROAD! or had a TRAFFIPAX CAMERA! There is NO VIDEO to the experiment EITHER! just a few photos! MY OWN EXPERIMENTS ARE MORE VALID BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAVE DONE VIDEOS, GOT ACTUAL PHOTOS, USED A STOPWATCH... It is a bit like a "JOKE" this inductive loop experiment because it is a bit like a "COURT CASE" when Alan White or Ben Majid comes in with a "DUMMY CAMERA" demo as evidence when it is not even the ACTUAL CAMERA, or fitted to an actual inductive loop, NOR is there any evidence to the court where the loop is even PLACED! it ALL the WORD of the officer only & he didnt even fit the camera. Approval certificate blah blah.. Its like the actual photos.... There is NO EVIDENCE OF AMBER other than a number. No photos! so why do they bother with ANY PHOTO AT ALL?! Its like a ridiculous rouse excuse to give them the fine money! and few even contest it. The LAW actually states that if you THINK YOU CANT STOP SAFETY IN TIME, TO CARRY ON AT AMBER. THUS INSTANTLY THE AMBER IS TREATED AS GREEN AND RED IS TREATED AS AMBER IN LAW. There is NO WAIVERING! So why is this critical PRE-RED evidence not collected? The fact is.. they dont want you to have it. Even though I saw a little white council CCTV smart car enforcing some traffic lights the other day in BURY, but he was zoomed in from a few sets back! that the image is so truncated and depth of field squished and the rest of the approach out of the photo, that it just seemed silly! I have the video to upload of it. My OWN 27mph drive past that I recorded & calculated backwards is the only true viable piece of evidence in all this, other than my own statement and testimony... oh and the fact the stop line is the wrong width and the traffic light warning sign is not placed correctly. thus the 2002 directions have not been followed correctly for enforcement with the camera!
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Post by Administrator on Apr 22, 2016 14:14:21 GMT
So now what? Well... I think that my complaint about the road not being straight is still valid for multiple reasons. But the best thing to do now is..... F.O.I. requests to Cheshire police, Traffic safety systems and Cheshire East council of the Exact positions under the road of the inductive loop grids in relation to the stop line (which is the wrong size anyway) Also guess it COULD be metal detected (if there arent decoy strips under there) to establish the Police & council are not lying about the F.O.I. request answers.. ALSO the MOST IMPORTANT THING NOW.. Is.. F.O.I. requests of DATA (MINUS PERSONAL DETAILS OF OFFENDERS) of some EXAMPLES of PHOTO TIMES of... Trucks, Lorrys, HGV, Cars, vans and such.. about 10 to 100 examples to compare the TRIGGER TIMES (time into red) with the 1st and 2nd photo times, with VEHICLE BRAND, MODEL, MAKE... so we can obtain the vehicle RIDING HEIGHTS, from the manufacturers... and see if the VEHICLE HEIGHT indeed does produce different results between vehicles! Note that from the report/experiment... They found no different results effected by SPEED OF VEHICLE! SO.. it doesnt matter WHAT SPEED the vehicle was going... its the HEIGHT and STRAIGHTNESS that results in different FIRST PHOTO POSITIONS! And if you remember, I found a POST on a Forum (think i have linked it previously) That a car driver said his FIRST PHOTO was in a position where the back of his car was by the stop line... so... that MIGHT or MIGHT NOT be the same as the van i drive being about 3-4ft across the stop line in the first photograph in my Macclesfield photos... But still... This is seperate from the SPEED READING being wrong between inductive loop 1 & 2 (1st & 2nd photos) which are incorrectly positioned for the true time over distance... Getting confused now? dont worry... this is a loada crap anyway, because the stop line is wrong size and the traffic light warning sign is wrong as well.. there just are that many things wrong with this Macclesfield camera set-up, its like a slippery snake wriggling!
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Post by Administrator on Apr 22, 2016 17:24:31 GMT
I don't know if the shabby wire hanging out at Macclesfield is even working? A decoy or the real loop! I would need the information from the council or police..... Similar examples
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Post by Administrator on Apr 22, 2016 18:02:14 GMT
Ok, let's suppose I wanted to go and test the timing of the actual Macclesfield camera ..and film it flashing , and even get another N.I.P.
The Council run the camera, not the police! And after the C.I.V officers turning up the other day to see if I was ok, sent by the Council CCTV...
That means they are watching the traffic lights junction, so if you did set up an experiment and film it... They might turn the camera off! ? Or change the settings on it!
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Post by Administrator on Apr 22, 2016 22:13:21 GMT
What i want to know is.... if the Macclesfield traffic lights are on a rAdar "sensor" for approaching traffic... why is traffic there either stopped in a queing line, after then being releaded to go... but then clear for ages with no cars when other directions could be going.. And then if you make the trail over when its clear... they go to RED! if it can sense you approaching, why change? unless they rigged it to go to red when is senses a car approaching!? and if the traffic lights are on a timer... why has it got sensors fitted anyway? Also... another thing... if RAdAR devices are supposed to have a straight road for correct distance operation with no bent beam signals.. then why are they using rADar or whatever sensors for approaching traffic?! The approach "corridor" past that red painted door towards the traffic lights has been reminding me of this scene from "Time Bandits"
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