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Post by Administrator on Jul 20, 2021 21:58:47 GMT
Hmmmmmm
Some of these have their own TV channels 😤
Betfair TV. Streaming the races (im guessing with commentary as well)
I don't like this because when i was watching the Grand National on love regular TV the commentator said a certain horse came in a certain order and it turned out not to be the case looking at the results afterwards so im very dubious now about the truth and what they are saying on live broadcasts.
Also a guy was telling me he went to the horse races many years ago and he never bet on horses every again after that as he said a jokey ran a horse out of the race on purpose when he was winning/going to win..
So im very sceptical
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Post by Administrator on Jul 20, 2021 22:19:45 GMT
Flutter have the brand www.sportsbet.com.auYou can't view the website and odds unless you are located in Australia. So you need to get Australian friends to look at the odds for you. I tried proxys but they have programmed the websites to not work through a proxy server. I think that as Canada and Australia are both commonwealth countries and certain rights apply legally between the commonwealth.. You might be able to sue for discrimination if they are fixing markets or odds differently due to sex, race, religion, class or other parameters that treat people unfairly due to where they live. Obviously taking exchange rate into account. You can't say.. have a website for rich people and give them more profitable odds than a site marketed at poor people. Or cap poor people from being allowed to bet as much money as rich people. Especially if the bookmakers are brands owned by the same company for example flutter. Because its discrimination between class. Rich/Poor punters.
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Post by Administrator on Jul 21, 2021 20:36:33 GMT
Hmmmmmm
Not good.
Apparently some friends of ours in Ireland tried to put bets on the betsafe.com site and it would only allow them to put a few cents on for the bet. Not even €10 and Apparently it didn't work and they lost their money 🙄
Am starting to be very dubious about these gambling sites now.
Betsafe.com is not to be trusted.
I don't know what this Ben Curtis guy has to say about it who is supposed to be sponsored by them
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Post by Administrator on Jul 21, 2021 23:11:16 GMT
There needs to be an investigation into Betsafe.com the Swedish betting site... to establish if they have been accepting high stakes for high odds bets that they have been refusing for other customers..
For example letting some people bet €100 and only allowing other customers to bet €10 or less ..
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Post by Administrator on Jul 22, 2021 12:00:34 GMT
I actually believe their strategy is to get you to spend more money and have to put more bets on through multiple websites.
At first the odds are good you only would need one site and one bet.. to get a good payout.
But they then put caps on and change the odds you then can't get the bet on
(They likely do)
You are forced to put more money on through multiple sites then.
Its ridiculous
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Post by Administrator on Jul 22, 2021 13:00:35 GMT
Here i found someone else with the same problem forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/customer-support-william-hill-so-incompetent-hurts-1290908/This guy Gets very frustrated when their email system doesn't work & they are asking for ID in order to get a refund issued.. Yet they didn't ask for or need ID when the voucher was first purchased, or a bet was placed. Also any refunds back to a card that was used are going back to the original person so, no ID is required under consumer rights & Customer Standards Law. They cannot demand ID for a refund if they didn't need it for a purchase n the first place. Anyone else had this problem with them? Also the APP just doesn't work. As I said before. It doesn't function. Its not doing what it supposed to do. Or its doing it wrong/not working by design. To obstruct.
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Post by Administrator on Jul 22, 2021 21:23:39 GMT
OK strategy wise..
If one site comes out with very significant odds like 300/1 and its a good Athlete .. you are gonna want to put on it decent bet..
Like 100 stake to get a good few thousand winnings.
Now if "they" and their contact's put bets on at those odds..
While "we" are capped at only 10 stake or 5 even.. nowhere near 100 stake we are gonna be annoyed.
Also further if they drop the odds down from 300 to 200 or 100 ..
As tbe listings then appear on rhe other sites.. closer to the event.. You are then gonna have to go put MORE higher stakes to get the sane winnings unless they limit the bets..
THEN FINALLY when the odds are lower still.. 100/1 or less.. you are looking at having to put a lot more on.. a few hundred stake.. But then magically its not capped.. And you can do a couple sites.. say ladbrokes and coral come in.
So you've ended up spending a few hundred maybe 300 in bets when initially if you hadn't been blocked or cheated out of that first bet you found.. you would only have had to do 1 bet.
Then the odds we find go even lower maybe 40/1
The companies have hustled us... we've ended up having to use multiple sites and at changing odds.
Also i find that William Hill like to "Boss you" own you.. mess you around, misleading you and lying about procedures..
Its kind of a way to show that they have the money and are pull the strings/calling the shots.. There's nothing you can know that they can't take from you..
Your ID, your money your betting knowledge.
I think there are some serious cultural issues within William Hill and internal integrity.
I will explain their legal flaws in tbis demand for ID before they issue a refund.. using "The purchase of Alcohol" as an example with age limit.
When you want a refund after already buying something.
Ill discuss that later.
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Post by Administrator on Jul 22, 2021 21:29:09 GMT
So i tried the Coral site app and Ladbrokes.
Their apps SEEM ok so far. A lot better and easier to use than William Hill.
Obviously ive not won anything yet ot tried to withdraw but things seem ok so far.
The only issue with Ladbrokes is that i went in today and asked if it would be possible to bet £100 in store by ticket without them needing to telephone to Authorise it. He said a £100 bet was fine and wouldn't need to be Authorised prior.
But he said it would be better to walk over to the machine in the shop rather than write out the bet. We went over to the machine and looked at Olympics and it was "locked" for Olympics betting... hmm
So you would have to actually write it out IF you knew all the details.
So looks like they are discouraging people putting bets on in store and instead making people use the app preferably..
Maybe to deter hear saying in store eh?? Possibly?
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Post by Administrator on Jul 26, 2021 1:44:29 GMT
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Post by Administrator on Jul 27, 2021 17:49:25 GMT
Hmmmmmmm
Now ladbrokes have suspended further betting on this Athlete 🙄
Can they actually do that? But not on their Coral site. 😐
Also, now on the betsafe.com site..
For the womens they have added "to place a medal" and "to win gold" for womens.. but there is only one Athlete you can bet on! 😅🥶😱 kinda ridiculous.
Also last i heard you could only bet a few cents!! And the bets then didn't work 🤔
They are meant to be reputable endorsed by Ben Curtis Irish Jockey and Sky.
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Post by Administrator on Aug 3, 2021 2:15:33 GMT
OK so.. The Market Listings for the Olympics have only just gone up on the Virin bet site as they were not there a few days ago and Skateboarding only just today or Yesterday.
200/1 ODDS on the Bet I wanted to put. Its 2:00AM At Night....
I Try to put the bet of £350 to win approx. £70,000 The Site takes it.. but Its then rejected but NO Max Limit is given or stated. So I contact Customer services.. A peter is very un-cooperative. He Gives me the betting policy and claims I can only put maximum to win £10,000 So I try put it & it doesn't Work. He then claims there is no Restriction on my account.
I Go Through all the legal Stuff & discrimination..
Then I try Put the £10,000 Max payout bet as he instructed.. But its rejected again this time...
So I go back again and ask him to put it for me.. But claims he cant. So I have to explain to him what a customer assistant is.
Then I go back & It will not take the Max he said.. So I put Lower.. I end up getting a bet on at £30 stake to win just under £5,000 The odds are changed to 150/1 not 200/1.
So He Switched them on me due to my enquiry & interest. Just like William Hill & Paddy Power Did. Exactly the same process.
Its 2:00AM remember on the 3rd and event is not until the 05th August. Why would odds change exactly at 2:00AM exactly at the time of my dispute, when they were 200/1 when I started the complaint & end up at 100/1 after my complaint??
Ive recorded all this but cannot show you because it has my personal details in the video in part.... But ive uploaded it & submitted it to the gambling commission.
I intend to pursue legal action for discrimination Against the Gambling Commission.
If I had been able to bet for & Win £100,000 I would be able to pursue that legal action easily.
If there is freedom of information data on Bets that they have given in the same market to people with a winning of over £10,000 then there is a real serious case. Also there are some serious issues with their policy as well, as its contradictory and non logical.
I go through it in my videos. I might edit out my details and put them up soon.
But for now I have made complaint.
Virgin Bet are literally just like William Hill & Paddy Power.
I Didn't find this problem with Coral & Ladbrokes though they didnt allow betting from their in-store machines which were locked on the Olympics.
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Post by Administrator on Aug 3, 2021 2:31:17 GMT
Right so this is how the Virgin bet scam works...
They put the odds up and it looks like you can out any amount on.... that you want.
There are no details of a limit..
You submit the bet..
(At this stage the scammer wants information about what punts are popular and what amount people are willing to put on as stake and interest.
(The sports categories and limits aren't shown to you at this stage)
So you join up and try put a bet.. not knowing any limit..
Its checked and rejected their end "traders".
Naturally you want to talk to them about it so enter chat..
He gives you the limits then.. and policy. Also a flimsy table and clauses that are contradictory and nonsensical.
He claims you can put to win £10k max on sports otber than those listed.. yet the others are not clear and in fact are illogical in the policy.
By this time they have sussed the bet and Interest and while you are engaged with them they switch the odds on you..
So... its a fishing game partly. I found the exact same methodology with William Hill. Paddy Power and Sky bet have a similar less direct set up..
And Ladbrokes and Coral were the least dodgy.
But ultimately they all exchange information and are under the Strategy of the Gambling Commission.
There is serious deception and false advertising going on. Unlawfully enforceable policy and very serious personal discrimination against individuals.
I will be very interested to see what the freedom on information comes up with (if tbey haven't fiddled tbe books)
And am keen to see what excuses the Department of Media culture and Sport come out with.. what excuses..
Particularly with Rodger Devlin being embroiled with Persimmon homes... And in turn with the Highways agency contracts and company's such as Kier. Balfour Beattie and Tailor Wimpey.
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Post by Administrator on Aug 3, 2021 2:35:24 GMT
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Post by Administrator on Aug 3, 2021 2:37:43 GMT
Also see my previous investigation bentcop.boards.net/thread/83/protect-children-gambling-skill-machineWhich ties in with this. I have very very serious concerns about this "Government" and these people who present themselves as legitimate trustworthy to run a country. I think we might need bars around schools to protect our children from Theresa May
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Post by Administrator on Aug 3, 2021 2:44:27 GMT
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