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Post by Administrator on Jul 11, 2021 16:15:20 GMT
Apparently Ronan says Internet went off during the Irish Lotto draw π
I have just been on paddy Power and but a bet on England v Italy match...
I wasn't sure which was home or away team. I put it on the wrong team and the odds actually were changing while I was putting the price... in..
And then after I put it... I was looking at cash out and the Β£10 cash out switched to Β£5 before my eyes!!
I cashed out Β£5 and put it on the other team...
I had to search which was the home and away team on Google as wearing different colour's also.. Apparently Italy are Home.
Is this a set up or what? π
Anyway after I put the bet, I complained and got a Β£5 free bet but it wasn't am amount I could withdraw. π‘
Only a free bet credit.
Seems scammy to me.
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Post by Administrator on Jul 18, 2021 16:19:31 GMT
Well, now the odds have gone and changed on that betsafe.com site..
I gave a few betting tips out so I wonder if that's the reason π€
Also betting on a particular athlete has currently been "suspended" (SUP) For Gold.. but not for "to place for a medal" bets.
I don't get why they are allowed to do that? A shop is a shop.
You can't take things off sale because people are interested in buying.
It's against all known customer consumer standards and trading standards rules.. and rights.
They are supposed to offer non discriminative sales to anyone
They are actually controlling who can put bets on and how much.
Which is a bet/gamble of if you can actually get the bet on at all.
Never mind the actual competition you are interested in.
Just Scandalous
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Post by Administrator on Jul 19, 2021 13:53:46 GMT
This all ties into the stuff Russell Brand is talking about wider government corruption
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Post by Administrator on Jul 19, 2021 15:01:11 GMT
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Post by Administrator on Jul 20, 2021 0:24:57 GMT
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Post by Administrator on Jul 20, 2021 0:35:16 GMT
A Thunderball ticket has mysteriously appeared in my account online and Β£10 prize in the account. With a match 3 main numbers...
From a few days ago. Personally i don't believe its legitimate.
Also today bus driver drove off and another drove straight past me.. I had to go complain at the depo..
The electric sign also then was flashing "cancelled" on the board for a bus but it appeared but behind one that was due about 6 minutes after it.
Between there and the depot a black car crashed into the back of another car. It was ridiculous. I believe his brakes were messed with...
As the electric bus depot display was..
And also a bus vanished off the bus station board on way back was parked up. Yet a checked the mobile app and was supposed to be due.
Somebody is causing havoc with joke's and pranks with electronic control of devices, machines, vehicles.
I did get a free ride back though as my ticket wasn't valid for a different bus company but she ket me off. But because i had to wait for that bus i ended up getting food i should not have... through boredom really.
I complained about the sky bet app and they have corrected the (SUP) SUSPENDED bet now...
Still..
There are very concerning things wrong with the William Hill app and site.
I will have to go through them as there is a lot wrong with it and the staff are trained to be clueless or ignorant
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Post by Administrator on Jul 20, 2021 14:03:46 GMT
Next chapter in this saga... im obstructed from depositing money on the William hill app due to all manner of dysfunctions of the site.. at this time i CAN put a max bet on of 308.70 for Β£25k payout. But i can't get the money into the account. It will take the bet tho and progress to payment stage. I just couldn't get it to set up payment... So... i go into the shop in Wakefield William Hill.. and i buy a VOUCHER for Β£308.70... i then go get on bus and i go onto app to type the voucher in.. THEY HAVE CAPPED BETS AT MAX Β£6 STAKE!!! only since last night π‘π€¬π‘ so i can't do the bet at 80/1 for Β£25k So voucher is pointless.. They have only just added the stake cap since yesterday. It was the only site left without a cap since the other sites updated 
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Post by Administrator on Jul 20, 2021 14:21:46 GMT
They also stopped the lottery machine scanning my slip properly as well at the bus station.
And the card machine rejected at a different shop.
Its more than William Hill behind this. It is government level.
Why do they need apps with ID forms and track your exact location with a stupid simple betting app?
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Post by Administrator on Jul 20, 2021 16:32:49 GMT
Ive managed to get the Williams hill site working but its still totally dodgy.. I think this following term is a good line.. Tricker checker  They have these "greyed out" options that make it look like the site is not working or the options are inactive. I did click on them before previously and nothing happened. Now they are working. Its just the way the site is laid out and set up. Nothing like the simplicity of the Sky site or paddy power which are very simple and easy. The William Hill site leads you around the houses and also fishes for tou to chat with them which is easier then getting funds into your account or actually placing a bet. Looks like all the sites are capped now. If you want to bet more you will need friends and family to set up accounts.. This could be part of a wider strategy to get more people set up and interested.. Particularly after all the Facebook groups betting on thunderball and set for life. Camelot being part of the strategy to "get people betting" in the first place... (because its for charity) and as they never make much more than free tickets or the odd Β£10, Β£20, Β£40 .. Likely will lead to people using these sites and also with new events in the Olympics its going to lead to many many many accounts being created i think. ππ¬ that is just my opinion though
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Post by Administrator on Jul 20, 2021 17:43:07 GMT
I am actually quite disturbed...
Because with all this bet capping..
Im finding that i have been asking friends to do bets for me.
Also asking my parents π₯Άπ±π±π₯Ά
This seriously encourages people to be in a desperate position where they might need to set up fake or false accounts.. and try use other peoples cards and details..
Its one of those very sketchy situations.
Where as if the bookies had just got a fair and honest upfront website that sticking to its original published offers..
This wouldn't happen.
To be honest i think it feels a bit like an entrapment type of set up. πππ§ i don't like the vibe of it.
Already starting to think things ive never though of before...
With the National lottery they shut the whole site down after a certain time. And whats on offer they don't keep changing how many you can buy, how many lines you can put with the same numbers... or how many tickets you can buy.
The bookies websites seem very suspicious when in reality you could just go to 3 or 4 different shops of the same brand and put the same bet. They don't ask for ID or anything so why do they do this on the website??
I mean you could just go ask friends or other people to go put a bet for you. ..
Its starting to feel like kids who go ask strangers to go buy them cans of beer or something outside corner shop or cigarettes.. kinda childish.
I don't think mixing Olympics with betting is actually that good.
And although i do play the lottery i still don't like the fact i am in a position where i feel i "need to win it".
Its upsetting to hear people in the lottery chat who are desperate. And in very unfortunate situations ππ₯Άππ
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Post by Administrator on Jul 20, 2021 19:22:52 GMT
Yet another strange thing to note about the Wierd William Hill site.. So if your account has a limit set (They lied three times on the online assistance about what my limit was set at) they said it was 200 when it was 100 and they said there was none at all yesterday when it had been out to 200 by admin π‘ Anyway.. look.. The limit is supposed to stop you spending too much.. BUT they let you buy a VOUCHER for any amount lolπ
π€£π So in store you can just instantly buy a VOUCHER for Β£300 ... Which actually even becomes invalid if you don't use it in 1 month!! (How is that protecting your cash and spending i don't know! Haha! ) So they technically just let you spend the 300 on William Hill no questions. But they won't let you put it on your account if the limit is set lower.. (the voucher might have been a gift) so you have to wait another 24hours to raise the limit!!  If they were that bothered about not wanting you to spend over your limit, why would they allow vouchers to be bought without question?? In fact as far as i read you were supposed to be able to give them your account membership number and put it straight onto the account directly as far as i read somewhere. Just seems contradictory to claiming to be out to protect your spending when they let you go in the shop and put 300 on a voucher!? Already spent!! And potentially could be LOST completely!! Probably take them 3 month to reply to you!! π
Then "poof" voucher gone Seem stupid to me. More evidence of this extremely tight gated system almost like the fences around all the schools. I believe its nothing to do with protecting your spending its more about control of putting bets at a exact time and in a timely odten time critical manner.. where odds change... its critical to get a stske at the right time. Then they are wanting to know exactly where you are on the app all the time.. your exact location
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Post by Administrator on Jul 20, 2021 19:23:51 GMT
That is if you can even find where to access that voucher page. If it is greyed out or even does anything when you click on it.
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Post by Administrator on Jul 20, 2021 20:01:56 GMT
Looks like Sky Bet and Paddy Power are owned by the same company Flutter. www.flutter.com/our-business/our-brandsKinda ridiculous if they are same owners offering totally different odds. I find the Different market * excuse could be challenged in court using discrimination laws. On sex, race, class discrimination π
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Post by Administrator on Jul 20, 2021 20:12:59 GMT
www.gambling.com/online-betting/knowledge/how-to-fill-in-a-betting-slip-2049600If this RULE is applicable in the Gambling industry then we may be in luck even if the odds change or are changed as you place a bet.. if you fail to write the odds on at all.. you may be eligible to claim the "starting odds" as the odds for the bet. So if starting odds are in your favour you are lucky it can work to your advantage!! Therefore my paddy power bet that was switched to 80/1 might be eligible for 150/1 because i didn't write the odds on the ticket! for example 
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Post by Administrator on Jul 20, 2021 21:08:42 GMT
Hmmmmmmmmmm π So... i found this American Website www.foxbet.com Its actually leading to this Website here: www.pokerstarssports.uk/Fox bet is poker stars sports. Now Fox Bet is owned i believe by the same people as Sky Sports and Paddy Power. I looked at the Olympics betting and its very strange they have only got some of the events.. and when you click on one market they haven't even got all the competitors listed π only the first five athletes in an event which is ridiculous.  π 2012 focus 0 60
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