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Post by Administrator on Sept 19, 2016 19:48:05 GMT
We just got a signature! Thank you! I dont know if you want mentioning or not, so i wont say who... But thank you so much!
It looks like its averaging at about 111 people visiting the site every 24 hours! After the Daily Mail advert! Thats about 4 people per hour!
So a lot more visiting to read the info that signing petitions yet! But its a start!
I need to tidy up the threads a bit. Because some take a while to load and theres some images thrown in that even i cannot remember why? Just seemed like a good idea at the time!
Anyway..the required info and evidence is there for the unlawfull enforcement and signs and cameras.. So thats the important part.
I might open a forum up for you to post in. And activate membership! I just dont want it to get messy. Argument wise.
I am not the best person for getting along with people on forums! Haha. Thats why i decided to just do it as an info site!
I dont get along with the fightback forums at pepipoo. But i dont think they are doing much to actualy get rid of speed cameras or get road signs put safe.
Its a bit like the speed camera detector industry.. There for proffit not really to improve the actual roads themselves.
Anyway..
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Post by Administrator on Sept 20, 2016 12:57:25 GMT
So, After the daily Mail advert on Saturday the Website is getting some visitors, but only one signature on petitions! though 111 visitors reading topics per 34 hours is about 4 people an hour... so that is at least something! i dont know if its all new people each time or repeat visitors spending time here... If i could get it to 40 people per hour at about 1,000 per 24 hours then we might start to get some decent signatures!! The only thing is that I have also looked into Google ads advertising. And i dont really want to do that as its "pay per click" and im not selling anything! its an information site only and for petition signatures... So i will not get the money back. As its a website for getting action to remove penalty points from the police, and council & government putting road signs correct. This isnt really for people to have information to go to solicitors or Lawyers with. As my findings show that the solicitors are collaborating with the police & councils to "keep their buisness going" to make money from all of this - at the loss of driving licences and money. Its for the driver to understand the road signs, law, rules and legislation and take up the cause themselves to Police, councils, courts and Government. - because currently drivers are being used as a source of money/buisness and legal abuses against the driving licence. Here, there are not really many people searching every month for "speed camera, or even driving solicitors" on google! The speed camera "detector" devices gets more internet activity! and i am willing to bet that the snooper and device buisnesses can be linked to the traffipax & AD group companies somehow. Either by friends or colleagues, just like the Road safety support is ex-police chief run buisness providing professional witnesses & road sign checks by double agent safety camera operators like Steve Callaghan. Who should not be able to give independent evidence. As Frank Garratte tele-traffic uk owner has been judged even not an independent witness. Anyway... the number of people speed cameras concerns is "Historic" and not in relation really to monthly online search activity. Thats why the police were soo keen to take down my petition notices from the speed cameras. Because the target audience was immediately located!! Where as drivers facing 3 points every month, new cases will not have much time to look into it. in these search statistics, there is hardly enough even in total people to get the 100,000 signatures required for the petition (10,000 would be ok i guess) but to get ober 100,000 signatures you need to take into account EVERYBODY who has had points on their driving licences. Not just how many per month! or how many are looking for snooper devices per month!
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Post by Administrator on Sept 20, 2016 14:20:05 GMT
The main problem is this -
The solicitors are not "bad people" exactly. But they are "Financialy motivated" and keep information to themselves mostly. And even if you find out things about law - They have a certain "Culture" and way they want to play things so that it is financially beneficial to their industry. The are not just going to "Help everyone for free" in most cases.. of speed cameras & road signage not being right, which is the "Right thing to do" - but would be lots of buisness thrown away. In one job.
Dont forget that the Solicitors and barristers "Supplier" IS the police.
So they are very reluctant to "Prosecute" or just "Stop" the road traffic enforcement even if it isnt being done properly.
The Solicitors - especially the Police station attending ones rely on the police for their steady contract work, and Court "Duty" rota work.
I have just spoken to a solicitor in email. I will put it on here and remove his details, just for example...
But he really was trying to talk me out of a magistrates re-hearing (which is possible to make application for)
And wanted to appeal to crown court instead! Apparently once the appeal is started you get your driving licence back, at least until the case is won or lost in the crown court. But if you loose, and say you have been driving again re-instated for 3 of the 6 months... if you loose after the Court date of the Crown appeal, you will get the 3 months you have waited "added back on" again to your disqualification period. Is it worth waiting 3 months, if you might loose?
The thing is that the solicitor and myself were having a discussion about the law required to fill in the N.I.P.
He was saying its "older" legislation that you can write a statement instead. But i believed that is not the fact of the matter. And its just become "culture" of police not to accept a written statement. Because in Criminal law, any evidence laid is done so by Criminal procedure rules. And that goes for all contact and notices to the police regarding all offences.
Also, if i have not completed the N.I.P. but sent a statement instead... how can i appeal?!
He then changed his mind and said.. "I would struggle".
Also even when you pay a barrister, they are saying you have to go to court. and appear. You might as well represent yourself! paying all that money to get a barrister to present the case, if you do not like courts... But you still have to go.. is a bit of an insult after paying the extra £1,000 for his services. The main reason i would pay for one, is not their services, but the fact i dont like or want to go to a court.
And in a case where the road signage is not lawfull, it IS exemption from Court jurisdiction. And a Civil matter to contest, not criminal. So like a fall or accident claim, you should not have to attend any court as with accident claims.
The option is there for solicitors to deal with & play this out a complelely different way. A lor less stress and hassle for the driver. less worry and less demeaning.
But as it will get lots of drivers fine refunds at a time, and lots of penalty points removed, it just is not the way the solicitors want to do it. Not beneficial for them OR the police. Who will have wasted years and years of work with the cameras - Knowning that they were in fact not lawfully enforceable,
Its a bit like having a "bad meat supplier" the solicitors are being passed on "bad meat" by the police...
Convictions that were "Not enforceable" and the solicitors are taking the stock and making a proffit.
Rather than "prosecuting the police" getting all the signs put right, then having a much less smaller pool of buisness, but it would be "Good meat" not unlawfull.
Except that it would be in fact the "Worst" drivers. the ones who really were speeding fast.
The police need to decide why they are police.
They are not doing it for the money on their wages. They are doing it for the power & authority & supposedly to get rid of crime.
Again, ultimately the best police force & solicitors in the country could stay at home all day. or get a job as a canoe or white water rafting instructor or a holiday cabin in Scotland. Because there would be no crime left.
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Post by Administrator on Sept 20, 2016 15:20:29 GMT
There does seem to be Good solicitors out there. And they do handle cases with unlawfull road signs, such as incorrect "Stop signs" or "No entry" signs. But these seem more random locations or in built up urban areas.
But it just doesnt seem to be at the locations where the police are operating the mobile & fixed camera enforcement. And that is where I have found the majority of incorrect & unlawfull road signs (including markings)
The defence solicitors seem also to hold the power in their advice and guidance. Being ultimately the "Gate keepers" of the law, unless you choose to represent yourself & present your own case & legislation before a court (and i really do not like courts as i find them part of the punnishment of being charged)
The socicitors can steer you away from certain ways of doing things. (Solicitors agree there is never only one way there are many ways) If it is not in their current culture or accepted peer framework. Even though there is lawfull and legislative methods available for a much better outcome.
Just like with the Rawdon A65 cases. Where it was the Council acknowledging the incorrect TRO order on the road, which resulted in them contacting the police to remove the convictions - and the police making excuses for 3 years that they had not been contacted. and "delaying" the matter. By which time the points had run out and many people might have had to suffer driving disqualifications because of it.
The solicitor role is not & should not be limited to the Court room. They can write letters which carry legal powers to Councils and the Police & Highways agency to give notice of Incorrect road signage. The reason why solicitors might go to court is because the police and/or Council will not agree or accept the complaints. Which is why you might require the courts authority. But the Chief of police (& legal services) as well as Highways authority, CAN accept the signage is not correct and authorize the removal of the points from driving licences. The DVLA as a division of the Department of Transport CAN acknowlege that the road signage is not lawfull and by the complaints process they CAN remove points from driving licences, because under section .85 chapter 27 of the road traffic regulation act, the Court had no such authority to apply the convictions.
The fact is that a Court really only is required because any of these other departments will not admit or accept the complaint over the road signage.
Otherwise there would be no problem.
The only thing is that when solicitors are proving in court & winning cases over incorrect road signage on behalf of drivers.. the authorities, council, police and Highways are not being "Punnished" for failing to give information about the road signage when it was their legal obligation to do so.
They are "getting away with lies" and "not being punnished" so the problem gets worse. And that is why it has become as bad as it is.
The defence solicitors are mostly just shielding drivers from being prosecuted, yet the councils and Police are - by denying theie is a problem in the first place - defrauding the public. Failing to give evidence when there is a duty to do so & legal obligation. Breech of truth & honesty policy (or possibly we will accept stupid) and false accounting, that the road signage is correct when it is not correct.
When there is a debate over the road signage, it is a civil matter. The police at Huddersfield confirmed this over the reception desk.
It is then identified as not a criminal matter.
The "CRUX POINT" that is faulty here is the POLICE CENTRAL TICKET OFFICE. Who issue the N.I.P. - they just want to get you to sign the form, get you named as the driver then get the cheque and money and points given, or driving course issued. They refuse to "ACKNOWLEDGE" the complaints about the road signage, or at least refuse once an N.I.P. has been sent out.
How are all the people why were made to do driving courses & miss work going to be compensated? its not just money, or points to refund. They were put through an "experience" like false arrest or detention, or being tagged, community service, or worse.. being forced with a summons to court.
When you cannot be convicted of an offence there is no prosecution to answer to. no defence to file. No power of warrant issue, arrest or summons from a court. All you need to do is send the court, prosecution or police the evidence, layed. period.
The fact is that if the "Police" and Prosecution, (Police led prosecutions) can GET IT THROUGH court, by blagging it. Tricking it through.. the Courts word is apparently final. through to the bailiff. Even it was done incorrectly...
It is like a freight train with no brakes... it cannot be stopped unless you pay out a lot of money to a lawyer or solicitor. The Prosecution are like a matador, with a red rag, or flag, covering up the truth, so the court bull can charge at you. (which courts like to do) you are forced into the bull ring and made to fight. and papers you lawfully submit to the court get torn to pieces by the bulls horns. into tatters. never making it to the legal effect that they held.
Being forced into the bull ring, by the police not accepting the road signage evidence that it is not correct, is defrauding the driver. And they are getting away with it time & time again. In fact the new fast track processing system has taken away any defence that gave the driver a real chance. Not the only chance is being misled by signs not being correct as the manual requires. Which can not be helping road safety.
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Post by Administrator on Sept 20, 2016 17:32:04 GMT
So, ive just spoken to a Solicitor in Cheshire and they can help me get back on the road, but they are noty going to tackle the police or my political exemptions.. because of funding issues and that they are not the right person to do it.. but they do seem to concur that my protection IS valid... And that I am right, in regards to my petition. Just that they think the magistrates will not be likely to be too pleased about it. basically. This is the problem.. the Police have infinite funding & legal tems & the CPS and Courts really are one now, not independent. And they are doing it with the Tex payers money! Ive had a solicitor from West Yorkshire even say that In referance to the police and CPS not doing things right. or lawfully. Here is the email exchange from Cheshire, I should post it in the Legal section really. i have removed the ID details but you can pretty much get the drift. He says a few things that I correct him on & vice versa... The do make excuses that when you challenge them they make another excuse or change the subject. I will say that this Solicitor was quite decent in regards being willing to discuss the matter. And he said he will help get me back on the road, but we have to do it his way & i would have to appear at the Crown Court, begging and pleading after being sheared and fleeced. which i find an insult. I rather be banned for 6 months. If its over the MS90 form... i sent in a statement. The police are liars and that is why i am petitioning them. I did not even run a red light & the signs are not even legal there.
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Post by Administrator on Sept 20, 2016 20:31:47 GMT
This is the type of information i am looking for.. But this is the US states.. www.workplacefairness.org/voting-rights-workplaceDifferent states have different laws and regulations on voting. And employers have to give time off. Im certain that even though parliament and MPs have party alleigances in voting and in parliament they can vote either way.. I am pretty certain that Magistrates and Judges are supposed to be independent while at work. And cannot take a political side. Thus if i can find where it says in the employment policy or court regulations that a magistrate or judge cannot decide on a political matter they should not be able to sign a petition while in court. Because it is a parliamentary document or one intended for the ballot petition bag in parliament and it is the House of commons that is fully independent from the courts jurisdiction. Thus any matter relating you your petition work..a magistrate or judge cannot sign while the court is in session. Thus they should not be allowed to decide any case concerning it. Obviously they would not like this fact.. But really there is no legislation to look for. I do not think there will be many or any books on this. Other than the Bill of Rights itself... Its not like there is a Highway code for petitioning. There are exemptions when it is noteworthy to mention it... For example the ASA advertising standards authority regulation care to mention the political exemptions.. The Clean Neighbourhood act mentions the exemption of political materials from distribution and advertising regulations.. A notice bourne from from an individual is not a commercial advertisement. Its like money is never litter. Its illegal to destroy it. If you drop it, money is never litter. It can only be lost property. A letter is a document. A legal notice can be attached to a door or lampost if there is no other method. Like a parking ticket on a car. Most of the road traffic act legislations for speeding and traffic light offences is based on one liners. One sentance of legislation. Same with petitioning and politics. If there are books on petitioning and politics like the political version of the higheay code.. Then i havent found them yet. But the Highway code is not the legislation. It is only an interpretation and general safety guide based on it. 23 meters is the reccomended stopping distance. In the highway code. 50 meters is the driving distance without a seatbelt for delivery drivers of goods vehicles. Yet in the legislation there is no distance given. It only says local area. A local area could be 3 mile radius. The REASON for not having to wear a seatbelt is not just getting in and out frequently. It is for attending to tbe load or keeping watch or if you need to stop and check the back. We know this because taxi drivers have similar exemptions.. To check their passengers.. This is common sense. The reasons for these exemptions. The traffic lights have no stated time or distance to react to in the law. Its up to the driver and vehicle type. The Highway code 23meters or more is ignored for these stopping distances. Some law needs common sense applied. To know why it is the law and in context to similar laws. For purpose and reason.
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Post by Administrator on Sept 21, 2016 11:54:42 GMT
Ive found some more information about the petitioning history and law... There are not many books.. But i will what i find... The Tumultuous Petitioning Act 1661 It seems like this type of issue was why the Bill of rights was created. Apparently you actualy needed 3 justices to allow or authorize a petition! And only 5 people could present one?! en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumultuous_Petitioning_Act_1661Until later you didnt need any permission from the justices and prosecutions against petitions were made illegal. There was also some detail over if it was the King, the House of commons or the House of Lords that you were petitioning.. But the Uk government is called Her Majestys government... And the Government has the petitions site they host under the crown emblem. So essentialy it has to be Her majestys government you are petitioning because they act on behalf of the sovereign. The Government is the Crown. This 1661 act has been repealed anyway. Anyway.. Every time there is a new Prime Minister.. The Queen asks them to 'form a new government' and it IS Her Majestys Government.. Thus if you are petitioning Her Majesty you would do it theough her Majestys Government as they provide a website and committee for it. I have even written to the Queen over the matter anyway.. And i can if i wish present the petition to the Queen as well as or in addition to parliament. The fact is i am petitioning and i can actually present the petition to who i like..the signatures are from the subject matter.. Not who the cause will be presented to. In fact on many websites you can choose multiple recipients of the petition! And you do not need any justices or a jury to add recipients of the petition to it. The petition file once complete can be presented to all or any authorities concerned. An in fact i would say that it is Her majestys government who deal with and matters put to her Majesty herself. Her ministers will deal with. Thus why the petitions committee exists.
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Post by Administrator on Sept 21, 2016 12:18:07 GMT
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Post by Administrator on Sept 21, 2016 12:29:22 GMT
Heres a book..
Justice and Grace: Private Petitioning and the English Parliament in the Late Middle Ages Author: Gwilym Dodd
I might have to start a new petition concerning all matters covered by the website.. Petitioning the Queen. But i still believe that it is "Her Majestys Government" thus you are actually petitioning Her Majesty through her government because the Queen has ministers to deal with things on her behalf.
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Post by Administrator on Sept 21, 2016 13:30:24 GMT
The Government IS actually owned by the Queen. Not the Prime Minister. The ministers carry out the running of the country on behalf of both the Queen and the tax payer. A Minister might petition the Queen directly.. between their fellow ministers. The Queen sends messages to parliament. If you write to the Queen over a matter it will likely be passed to her ministers. If you send her a petition directly.. she wil pass it to her ministers to deal with. Thus to petition the Queen.. the Crown.. you would petition her ministers over the subject you wish to present to Her Majestys government. You could send a copy to her as well.. but she clearly states that her ministers deal with the running of the country.. Thus I believe that in the commonwealth any subject is petitioning the Queen by petitioning parliament. But and member of parliament can petition the Queen directly. Just as any person could write to the Queen directly. But she is likely to hand it to ministers to deal with if you are a subject and not a Minister. Thus you are petitioning her majesty by petitioning her nominated ministers (the house of commons) on her behalf at her direct request. And as Her Majesty has actually told me that her ministers will deal with matters then I am petitioning Her Majesty via her ministers. Thus the Bill of Rights IS in effect. And it is illegal to be prosecuted for the petitioning work. It is a right to be able to petition without the law interfering. It is political work. Not different from the work of Ministers. And ad it is work submitted to The House of Commons as well... It does and should fall within the protection of that house. Because the exclusive Cognisance covers non parliamentary members. Thud the Right to petition must also cover non parliamentary members as well. From google... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_Majesty%27s_Government_(term)
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Post by Administrator on Sept 22, 2016 8:47:05 GMT
123 People every 24 hours is about 5 people per hour! pretty good! Just not 5 people per hour signing petitions... but we will see. I might have to change the entire campaign name to just "Road safety Campaign" or "Safe Road sign campaign" because it might be giving the impression that it is not a good website being called Bentcop.biz But it is uncovering police corruption and their attempts to give the appearance to the public that they are honest when I have found them not to be. Road safety support Casualty reduction partnership There names selling you the pretence that the police are concerned about safety, when it is about money and control. The real evidence is that they are Fishing the oceans of the roads for driving fines.. here & there casting the nets. In "Set up places". It is not road safety.. but if you do not believe me that is for you to decide.
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Post by Administrator on Sept 27, 2016 11:18:51 GMT
So, I Booked a small advert in the Sun, newspaper. eventually figured out it was esy to use their menu booking system, and you can upload an image quite easily! I thought you had to send it through a different image rendering website.. Anyway.. i went to buy the newspaper today... Tuesday 27th September! after having an Advert in the Daily Mail on the 17th September and getting some web traffic from it! but they did my advert the wrong designs layout as what i requested. so the Daily Mali agreed to re-run the advert and do it a bigger size free of charge! yay! So i decided to do one final advert in the SUN newspaper, but that would be the last one.. because i cannot get to work and need my driving licence back, and still have the fine to pay with my last money.. Anyway.. i got the SUN newspaper this morning and my advert was NOT in there!! aargghh!! So i rang up & they have put it on hold!! without informing me first! but are refunding me the money! But ive complained, because the advert is a petition and exempted from ASA (advertising standards authority) regulations! Ive sent them my other newspaper adverts.. So there is going to be a delay getting an advert in the SUN newspaper. boo! Not fair. I dont think there was any genuine need to put it on hold. I wonder if i will get it for free? or a larger advert to make up for it? Is there any point when not many people are signing the petitions?
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Post by Administrator on Sept 30, 2016 17:44:38 GMT
Hacking/obstructions to my campaign. I am not exactly certain what is or has been going on, but i have had a hunch that somebody has been blocking or obstructing my petitions from being signed. But people have been visiting & reading my website on www.bentcop.boards.net. At least apparently in decent numbers of around 100 people per hour. Since i ran the Daily Mail newspaper advert. But the last few days my main webpage with the petition links on it has not been working consistently.. Here is a video i have just done. A few friends have said that the website has been wotking fine for them. but someone could potentially allow my friends to access the website.. so it appears it is working ok, when it might not have been working for other people. OR it might have been working & someone might have changed how many petition signatures/visitors the site has been getting. The reason would be obvious that the Government have been allowing the police to prosecute people illegally. so it would be a large enough reason for someone to hack into/obstruct my campaign. where as the 38 degrees website's huge number of campaigns & actions in parliament are not really individually as a serious matter, nationally as the subjects and cause covered by www.bentcop.biz. that actualy finds the majority of police forces in the country to have collaborates with the government in illegal activity against the motorist on a national scale. this petition, out of several.. is still apparently ok you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/to-force-investigation-of-illegal-speed-entrapment-sitesBut the images & videos are not showing up. only as links, not as the image until i log-in. & it wouldnt let me update the image. from the yellow speed camera van, to the unlawfull Ossett bypass terminal signs! I will have another go at fixing it. i might have to put all the petiion links clearly indicated in a thread on this forum.
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Post by Administrator on Sept 30, 2016 23:48:21 GMT
It seems to be working ok again now... Ive just added some protection to the website hosting.. it didnt cost much. just for 6 months or so... I dont know if that is what has made the website load correctly and work now. Or if whoever was doing it has stopped doing it. But anyway.. it seems to be working again for now..
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Post by Administrator on Oct 14, 2016 14:22:00 GMT
Well, I just got my copy of the Crewe & Nantwich guardian through the post... its quite a slim newspaper to say its out once a week, i thought it had quite a lot of other content in it... possibly you dont get that in the copy they sent out? Anyway... I thought the advert was not in on first search, but it is in there.. i was expecting colour though! and for three colums wide it is looking a lot smaller than i thought it would be, a lot less visible than the Daily Mail adverts! This one has a lot more information in it, and the print is small but readable.. Although, yesterday The website did not seem to get any new traffic since the Daily Mail advert went out. This Crewe and Nantwich guardian gets about 30,266 readers... mabe i should just give up now Anyway.. the advert in under the road planning section!? I hope they are not endorsing unlawfull signs and markings?! The Sun newspaper would not publish my Advert, but im not certain why? if its because it went through the classifieds section.. some newspapers are funny about if i put it through that way.. but when you ring up the main advertising department, they seem fine with it... So it might just be a problem with the ones submitted via the automatic system? I am going to give up now, though i think. I dont think anyone supports the petition campaign... I seem to do well in other things... photography, ideas for other things.. just not this. I will post this in the main section as well, anyway..
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