Post by Administrator on Mar 28, 2015 16:36:44 GMT
I asked an undercover police officer in an unmarked police car what he thought about the fact that our mobile phones all have GPS (newer ones) and that in truth the authorities can know any speed of any vehicle.
I told the police officer that I would not mind having my phones GPS speed tracked if it was done legitimately with correct speed limits & road signs.
The officer did NOT agree. he said HE WOULD NOT AGREE TO HIS SPEED BEING TRACKED.
I have reported several speeding police cars, sometimes even with other police cars watching them pass exceeding the speed limit! also MANY MANY POLICE MOTORBIKES SPEEDING FOR NO REASON.
After reporting them and asking to have the satellite tracking checked as evidence the POLICE ATTEMPTED TO CLAIM THAT IT CAN NOT BE USED AS EVIDENCE TO PROSECUTE.
This is TOSH. Because I read that even an INCORRECT SPEEDOMETER can be used as evidence AS LONG AS THE SPEED IS IN GREAT EXCESS.
For example if the speedo is 50mph out, and you are driving at 200mph. It can be evidence that you were at least driving at 150MPH because the speedometer was 50mph incorrect.
Besides that point the police are under truth & honesty employment policy which they all seem to think is a joke and they are all exempt from, or society does not value truth, in which case I wonder why they are doing the job? they do not have licence to break the law and are not above it.
IIn my recent 2 (illegitemate) convictions where the road signs were 1.not present for over a mile & 2. illegal & incorrect signs, as well as malicious laser use...
The vehicle I drive has satellite tracking & in BOTH cases the Satellite history showed I was in fact around 4mph less speed than the police lazer ON BOTH OCCASIONS. The police would not accept this as evidence even though it proved also the malicious lazer technique raised the speed limit calculation.
I did a experiment with my phones GPS ALSO. And I did TEN (10) drives on a road trying to keep the vehicle EXACTLY AT 50MPH.
It was IMPOSSIBLE TO DRIVE AT 50MPH EXACTLY. The GPS was pretty accurate though and only a couple 1-3 mph out but never exactly as the speedometer read.
But I give it as evidence that it IS AS ACCURATE AS ANY HOME OFFICE APPROVED LASER OR RADAR (EVEN ID FALSE APPROVAL BE THE CASE)
Your Police and CPS "expert" (yeah right) who is paid to obstruct your challenges to speed camera video claims the vehicle speed tracking is not accurate, but he is paid upto £2000 a time to say that.
What may I ask is the POINT in GPS then?
Well as it stands if the police forces GPS was checked half the entire police force would be banned from driving.
Why do they admit they do not want to be tracked by GPS as a method of law to check their speeds? because they DO break the speed limit when they are not supposed to.
Here are the results from my own "Ski tracks app" experiment
Ski tracks is an application to track your vehicle speed via satellite
13/04/2014 Ski tracks speed tracking of 50MPH top speed over ten drives
on the same strech of road.
Average speed tracking at 50Mph experiment.
From a HTC desire mobile phone with ski tracks speed tracking installed
Note The results for uphill were always lower than the results for downhill, even though the same speed was observed on the speedometer. This shows there is a drag factor on the speedometer linkage.
For further referance A TomTom satellite navigation device (latest model) tracks speed at
-2mph when compared to the speedometer of A18 EDS.
The average speed was 49.57 Mph across the ten drives. Suggesting that the actual van speed is around half (1/2) a MPH slower than the speedometer reading.
The lowest recorded speed was 48.2 MPH. The highest recorded speed was 51.9 MPH
That is a 2.7 MPH max variation range in speed reading.
+ 1.9 MPH max upper difference to 50 MPH speedometer reading.
- 1.8 MPH max lower difference to 50 MPH speedometer reading.
+ 1.6 MPH max upper difference to 49.57 MPH average calculation.
- 1.5 MPH max lower difference to 49.57 MPH average calculation.
This means that satellite speed monitoring of vehicle A18 EDS is accurate to its speedometer and actual speed within approximately +2 MPH & -2 MPH
so the actual speed of a recorded 58 MPH could be anywhere from 56 MPH to 60 MPH.
The vehicle was driven and The speedometer kept as close to 50MPH as possible on ten seperate runs to determine accuracy of equipment.
Test results
SKIZ file sent from Ski Tracks V1.2.2 from your htc_wwe HTC Desire HD A9191
DRIVE ONE
Maximum Speed: 49.5 mph
Distance: 0.1 mi
Vertical: 2 ft
Slope: UPHILL
Duration: 00:01:30
SKIZ file sent from Ski Tracks V1.2.2 from your htc_wwe HTC Desire HD A9191
DRIVE TWO
Maximum Speed: 50.5 mph
Distance: 0.8 mi
Vertical: 91 ft
Slope: DOWNHILL
Duration: 00:01:33
SKIZ file sent from Ski Tracks V1.2.2 from your htc_wwe HTC Desire HD A9191
DRIVE THREE
Maximum Speed: 48.9 mph
Distance: 0.0 mi
Vertical: UPHILL
Slope: 0°
Duration: 00:01:26
SKIZ file sent from Ski Tracks V1.2.2 from your htc_wwe HTC Desire HD A9191
DRIVE FOUR
Maximum Speed: 50.2 mph
Distance: 0.9 mi
Vertical: 69 ft
Slope: DOWNHILL
Duration: 00:01:44
SKIZ file sent from Ski Tracks V1.2.2 from your htc_wwe HTC Desire HD A9191
DRIVE FIVE
Maximum Speed: 49.1 mph
Distance: 0.1 mi
Vertical: 2 ft
Slope: UPHILL
Duration: 00:01:30
SKIZ file sent from Ski Tracks V1.2.2 from your htc_wwe HTC Desire HD A9191
DRIVE SIX
Maximum Speed: 49.3 mph
Distance: 0.8 mi
Vertical: 106 ft
Slope: DOWNHILL
Duration: 00:01:40
SKIZ file sent from Ski Tracks V1.2.2 from your htc_wwe HTC Desire HD A9191
DRIVE SEVEN
Maximum Speed: 48.3 mph
Distance: 0.2 mi
Vertical: 7 ft
Slope: UPHILL
Duration: 00:01:43
SKIZ file sent from Ski Tracks V1.2.2 from your htc_wwe HTC Desire HD A9191
DRIVE EIGHT
Maximum Speed: 49.8 mph
Distance: 0.6 mi
Vertical: 106 ft
Slope: DOWNHILL
Duration: 00:01:44
SKIZ file sent from Ski Tracks V1.2.2 from your htc_wwe HTC Desire HD A9191
DRIVE NINE
Maximum Speed: 48.2 mph
Distance: 0.2 mi
Vertical: 10 ft
Slope: UPHILL
Duration: 00:01:47
SKIZ file sent from Ski Tracks V1.2.2 from your htc_wwe HTC Desire HD A9191
DRIVE TEN
Maximum Speed: 51.9 mph
Distance: 0.6 mi
Vertical: 92 ft
Slope: DOWNHILL
Duration: 00:01:32
Final note: It was impossible to drive the vehicle at exactly 50MPH in this experiment. According to ski tracks results.
It was evident as stated that uphill and downhill gave slight trends, i wonder if this is because you are moving closer or further from the satellite uphill and downhill?
I would agree to have my phone GPS speed tracked for speeding purposes IF THE SPEED LIMITS WERE CORRECT AND ROAD SIGNS CORRECT.
The POLICE OFFICER I ASKED DECLINED AND DID NOT WANT TO BE TRACKED.
You CAN USE THE SATELLITE AS EVIDENCE NO MATTER WHAT THE POLICE CLAIM, ANY DEVICE CAN BE USED AS EVIDENCE TO ITS ACCURACY SETTINGS ALLOWANCE.
So if a police laser records you at 56MPH and the GPS says 54mph and a 2nd GPS in the vehicle or your phone says 53MPH then it IS good evidence that you were on average slightly LESS than the police equipment reading. And there is the police vehicle stability & police officer aim to consider.
The police will not accept it because it disproves their prosecution, but in TRUTH OF LAW, GPS CAN BE USED, as can ANY SPEEDOMETER of any other witness and even an incorrect speedometer if the vehicle is in large excess of certain speeds.
I am willing to bet that if you drive as close to 50mph as you can on a road to your speedometer, that the police laser can not get exactly 50mph.
Also remember different vehicle wheel sizes need different speedometer settings and the laser of the police does not know your wheel size so is not calibrated exactly to your vehicles speedometer or true speed.
This is why the speed surveys they set up with the 2 wires across the road are never accurate because they are set to the average vehicle wheel size.
This is why they had to bring in the 56mph speed limiters to HGV because if the trucks & lorrys drove at 60mph on 60mph roads or motorways they would be speed detected at OVER 60mph and the WHOLE MATRIX OF SPEED CAMERAS WOULD NOT WORK CORRECTLY FOR HGV.
So they made this 56mph rule. THE ENTIRE HGV AND LORRYS IN THE COUNTRY HAVE BEEN SLOWED DOWN FOR THE REASON - So speed cameras can be used!
Or the entire system would be incorrect. - which it still is anyways. So many many transport buisnesses have been made to drive at 56 mph just so the police can speed detect everyone.
What about the medium wheel sizes in between for vans then? well that is why the system is malicious. Van drivers are going to be read incorrectly for their true speed just as much as a mini or a small car with small wheels.
Add to that the unstable mobile spee camera vans and malicious techniques and the reduced speed limits on roads that should have a higher speed limit - and you get a completely rubbish system.
Go look into it. You will find I speak the truth.