Vehicles constructed (Or adapted) *FOR USE* as goods vehicles.
Please find attached Tax form. I have been paying TAX for USE of the vehicle A18EDS VOLKSWAGEN CRAFTER VAN, use as personal transport & domestic pleasure.
It is Insured for USE as both Work, Domestic & Pleasure. And is fitted with passenger seats.
It is therefore adapted for USE as a passenger vehicle as well as for goods.
(Dual Purposes). Just as any Passenger car pulling a heavy trailer is adapted for use as a goods vehicle, and if insured for USE as a works vehicle & taxed for that use or both
In the Road Traffic Regulation act 1984, Schedule 6 gives the term (dual purpose vehicle) in a sentence stating those dual purpose vehicles can be over 3 tones, which they cannot by the meaning of dual purpose vehicle in the Motor Vehicles Construction & use as the maximum weight of those vehicles is 2030kg (2 Tonnes) the same as a dual purpose vehicle maximum weight.
If Schedule 6 states a dual purpose vehicle is over 3 tonnes unladen weight does fall into schedule 6 item (1) but it is impossible for that type of vehicle to be over that weight, then there is something not right here.
The Car-derived van is only mentioned if towing. Otherwise it is also not heavy enough to be in item (1). It states it is not to be placed in item (5).
The car-derived van description appears schedule specific. We don't find the term anywhere else.
All other terms are given a reference as to what the meaning is & where.
Except for the Dual purpose vehicle.
The meaning of dual purpose vehicle or any reference to its meaning within this act is not given in the schedule meanings.
This does highlight the fact of "contradiction" and nonsensical, irrational sentence mentioning it in item (1) when it is impossible for it to be over 2 tonnes.
Also because the distinction between all vehicles over 1500kg & under 1500kg has been removed by The Motor Vehicles (variation of speed limits) regulations 1984, 4(4) there is in fact no distinction between vehicles that are a dual purpose vehicle, a car-derived van, or a motor car class vehicle.. no matter if a passenger or goods vehicle.
Its clear that vehicles under 3 tonnes unladen weight are not in the table.
a van which has an unladen weight of only 2.2 tones is well below 3 tonnes.
And if used for dual purposes.. it is adapted for USE as a passenger vehicle, if it has been fitted with passenger seats, is insured for USE as such & Taxed for USE as such.
Part VI application & interpretation does NOT state that "passenger vehicle" in that schedule means a vehicle (Solely) for use of passengers.
Just as it does not refer to "Dual Purpose vehicle" as any particular meaning from any specific act.
You can have a passenger vehicle, even NOT fitted with a towbar, or even not with that much LOAD space, which is TAXED & INSURED for *USE* as a goods vehicle.
delivering goods, not the passengers effects.
185 Meaning of “motor vehicle” and other expressions relating to vehicles. as defined in the Road Traffic act 1988
“motor car” means a mechanically propelled vehicle, not being a motor cycle or an invalid carriage, which is constructed itself to carry a load or passengers and the weight of which unladen—
(a)
if* it is constructed solely for the carriage of passengers and their effects, is adapted to carry not more than seven passengers exclusive of the driver and is fitted with tyres of such type as may be specified in regulations made by the Secretary of State, does not exceed 3050 kilograms,
IF IT IS, constructed solely for. It doesn't say it HAS to be.
(b)
if* it is constructed or adapted* for use for the conveyance of goods or burden of any description, does not exceed 3050 kilograms, or 3500 kilograms if the vehicle carries a container or containers for holding for the purposes of its propulsion any fuel which is wholly gaseous at 17.5 degrees Celsius under a pressure of 1.013 bar or plant and materials for producing such fuel,
(c)
does not exceed 2540 kilograms in a case not falling within sub-paragraph (a) or (b) above,
Any Goods Vehicle can adapted for carriage of passengers (fitted with anywhere between 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 , 7, passengers (not including the drivers seat) And can be TAXED & INSURED for USE* for that purpose, as well as adapted.
Thus a vehicle having (dual purposes) would fall into (C) as long as the unladen weight does not exceed 2540kg (2.5 tonnes unladen weight) which is half a tonne less than the passenger only vehicle.
The (Car-derived van) a goods vehicle with a maximum gross weight of only 2 tonnes which has been TRANSFORMED into a PASSENGER ONLY VEHICLE is in fact NOT ALLOWED TO BE A GOODS VEHICLE anymore. Its in fact a light passenger vehicle. see (c) below
Road Traffic act 1988
85
Interpretation of Part II.
In this Part of this Act—
“light passenger vehicle” means any motor vehicle which—
(a)
has at least four wheels,
(b)
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(c)
is constructed or adapted for use for the carriage of passengers and is not a goods vehicle,
(d)
has no more than eight seats in addition to the driver’s seat, and
(e)
has a maximum design speed exceeding 25 kilometres per hour,
Thus, as the Road Traffic Regulation act 1984, in schedule 6, speed limits, does NOT state (Light passenger vehicle) in item (1). Only "passenger vehicles" and does not even refer to a specific act for the interpretation version of either "passenger vehicle" or "dual purpose vehicle" you can have a "motor car" which falls into (c) of 185 of the meaning of motor car in the Road Traffic regulation act 1988.
But.. further to this.... we forget one major thing here....
vehicles with a DRIVER SEAT ONLY are NOT a passenger vehicle, but are a MOTOR CAR. and there used to be a LOT of them!
136
Meaning of “motor vehicle” and other expressions relating to vehicles.
(1)
In this Act, subject to section 20 of the M1Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970 (which makes special provision with respect to invalid carriages), “motor vehicle” means a mechanically propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on roads, and “trailer” means a vehicle drawn by a motor vehicle.
(2)
In this Act “motor car” means a mechanically propelled vehicle, not being a motor cycle or an invalid carriage, which is constructed itself to carry a load or passengers and of which the weight unladen—
(a)
if it is constructed solely for the carriage of passengers and their effects, is adapted to carry not more than 7 passengers exclusive of the driver, and is fitted with tyres of such type as may be specified in regulations made by the Secretary of State, does not exceed 3050 kilograms;
THIS MUST BE IN RELATION TO BOTH* (a) & (b) BECAUSE IT GIVES THE TYRES HERE FOR BOTH. THEREFORE AS THIS SENTANCE REFERS TO BOTH (a) & (b) FOR THE TYRES, THE FIRST PART OF THE SENTANCE MUST* MEAN.... IF** it is constructed solely for OR IF IT IS OTHERWISE IN ADDITION TO THE DRIVERS SEAT (some vehicles only have one seat for a driver only) ADAPTED TO CARRY EITHER 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 OR 7 PASSENGERS!!! And a VOLKSWAGEN CRAFTER IS SO FITTED WITH SUCH TYRES, & SO ADAPTED TO CARRY TWO PASSENGERS EXCLUSIVE OF THE DRIVER.
(b)
if it is constructed or adapted for use for the conveyance of goods or burden of any description, does not exceed 3050 kilograms (or 3500 kilograms if the vehicle carries a container or containers for holding, for the purposes of its propulsion, any fuel which is wholly gaseous at 17·5 degrees Celsius under a pressure of 1·013 bar or plant and materials for producing such fuel); or
ARE YOU SAYING THERE ARE NO REGULATIONS FOR TYRES OF A GOODS VEHICLE?
THIS IS NOT A SEPERATE VEHICLE FROM (a) IT IS ADDITIONAL ADAPTATION CAPABILITIES OF THE SAME VEHICLE
(c)
in a case falling within neither of the foregoing paragraphs, does not exceed 2540 kilograms.
WELL, EITHER, OR BOTH, IT DOES NOT MATTER. BUT A PASSENGER VEHICLE ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT HAVE TO BE SOLELY FOR PASSENGERS. BECAUSE ANY OTHER MOTOR CAR, SUCH AS A SINGLE SEATER SPORTS CAR, FOR ONE DRIVER ONLY, IS NOT A PASSENGER VEHICLE, BUT IT IS A MOTOR CAR. (Therefore any van, goods vehicle, under 3 tonnes unladen weight IS a passenger vehicle by construction/adaptation of 2 passenger seats.
And, when we come to the term “Passenger vehicle” itself as a separate term, it cannot mean a “motor car” which has only a “drivers seat”, because a drivers seat is not a passenger seat.
The motor vehicles (construction & use) regulations 1973 – part 1.-preliminary
interpretation 3.-”passenger vehicle” means a motor vehicle constructed solely for the carriage of passengers and their effects;
The one seater cars are NOT passenger vehicles.
They don't fall into Schedule 6 speed limits... because they arent mentioned. But they should be subject to speed limits if towing a trailer.. unless you are saying they are not? Or unless the trailer hold fuel only & it is not therefore classed as a trailer. So would the one seater motor car fall into © and if so.. does that mean it does not need to be fitted with regulation tyres?? if it is under 2.5tonnes unladen weight?? That is the question.
So...
Although the Light vans under 3 tonnes unladen weight are adapted for USE as goods vehicles, they are also Passenger vehicles. And do not have to be SOLELY for use as a passenger vehicle.