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Post by Administrator on Mar 13, 2016 23:49:43 GMT
the thing is with sellotaping the camera to the railing, you cannot film the approach time..  Plus mystery mini and police woman in police car this time! |
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Post by Administrator on Mar 14, 2016 0:31:09 GMT
Ive done the timing with the first video as well from today, before I drew the measured road markings out! But for the same times correlating to the same position for the first photo....in the 5 seconds after time the van is FURTHER away than in the 2nd run i showed in the video WITH the road markings! so at the similar 27mph speed it has gone further!   BUT! The ANGLE is slightly different as well! because I must have sellotaped the camera to a different railing the 2nd time!! so the perspective is different, but you can see that the distance is different still! but also how the angle changes how you see it! and this is the problem with the fixed camera position, its crap! possibly a bit better with the higher resolution photos (If they produce them that is)  AND LOOK HERE!! For the ZERO RED TIME! on this drive by.. same speed 27mph (as accurate as I can drive) I AM A DIFFERENT DISTANCE AWAY! In THIS photo i am only 2 and 1/4 RAILINGS AWAY from the yellow thing! (background)   3 and 1/4 Background railings away from the yellow thing! and the post is showing as well! So.. just think... if thst was because i didnt hold a perfect 27mph and it was fluctuating (really difficult speed to drive at)... Just think... IF i had been driving at 30mph... I would have been over the line easy with these calculations! Also I still believe that I was at least upto the line at RED or over it anyway, and the Police refuse to take evidence of that with the machines they choose to use. and they refuse to Give a amber distance or time into amber to brake at.. 1sec, 2sec.. or a speed guide. Except Dorset Police with the 1 sec error time... which is an amber time really, not a red running licence. What if its to do with video playback frame rate?! or computer CPU speed? But that begs the question of the home office approval of the equipment and its calibration.. All computer programmes and video software is supposed to be tested and approved as well! And so far everything the police seem to come up with.. tyre measurements and laser speed guns is wrong! so you tell me which you think it the authentic measurements.  |
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Post by Administrator on Mar 14, 2016 21:50:01 GMT
Stockport, long red tarmac strip laid out approaching traffic lights at a set before the red light camera set! same distance as lamp post spacing! primes for longer time to get through lights!
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Post by Administrator on Mar 14, 2016 23:56:05 GMT
Ok, so because the POLICE DEVICE gives data that calculates ITSELF WRONG.. It gives 27mph as the speed, yet its given times calculate the speed to 26.82 or something Mph..(photos give positions for a 35mph calculation!). Then you really need to calculate the distances over the entire 3.78 and 4.28 seconds right from the start of the amber or even beyond! Anyway.. if you see example A & B i have added into the table... A. is an example for 24mph with the exact times over the amber phase and red, with the positions for first and 2nd photo... EXAMPLE B. is the one that should match their given data..... but when you calculate it by their times over the full distance it works out a slightly different distance to the original 27mph distance i did in PURPLE (3rd up) for overall distance. Anyway... the Green box C. is supposedly the position when RED came on. and B. is the first illumination of amber apparently. But the final position does NOT match the police photo #2, because its CLOSER TO THE STOP LINE! and this is evident by the police photos (WILL NEED HIGHER RESOLUTION IMAGES SUPPLIED) but it is obvious that the police positions do not match up with the calculations or my re-creations.. which i filomed TWICE both with & without measurements.... because the police photo #2 looks like it is at least by the distance i have worked out for 35mph! or well over the 30mph mark anyway! also the police device has rendered itself inaccurate by 4.5cm by its own calculatios and data and the data conflicts to 2 speeds... both 27mph and 26.8mph  But my evidence says thats a loada crap because the police photo position 2 is way further than that anyway. The FACT is this. It doesnt MATTER WHAT the speed is. OR the TIMES between photos... in fact the 2nd photo is pointles. Because ALL THAT MATTERS IS WAS THE LIGHT TRULY RED STILL 0.7 SECONDS BEFORE tHe FIRST PHOTO?! and THERE IS NO EVIDENCE AT ALL GIVEN! So... NONE OF THE TIMES OR DISTANCE OR SPEED BETWEEN PHOTO 1 & 2 MATTER! you can calculate ALL DAY. PHOTO 2 IS POINTLESS WITHOUT a PHOTO OF BEFORE THE VEHICLE GOES OVER THE LINE! and this is really a JOKE with the THREE TRAFFIPAX STRIPS for the traffipax speed camera... because IF that was painted where the stop line is... and it took THREE FAST SPEED PHOTOS on EACH LINE.. you WOULD* get 3 photos.. a moment before ON and AFTER the stop line! yet this is NOT GIVEN with this stupid set up & photos! they are RED HERRINGS! literally. (NOTE THE 30MPH distance as well in comparison.. a few more mph, or a few meters would have been to the line)  HERE is the distances for 25, 26, 27, 28, 29 & 30 then 25mph calculated & drawn out at the site.. and I did the experiment twice and the DISTANCE is for certain a lot closer than in the Police photos... the Police photo position is about at the 35mph place!  Thus because the machine cannot even be accurate itself to 4.5cm and because the police photos & distances are NOT correct to 27mph.... I also claim that the AMBER PHASE and RED light time which absolutely NO EVIDENCE IS GIVEN FOR other than a claimed number... is all a loada bullshit. Because... YOU MIGHT AS WELL NOT EVEN GIVE a 2nd photo!? why bother?! why not just use radar or whatever & print the numbers out on paper & read them off in court?! WHY DO YOU NEED THE 2 PHOTOS?! ONE would do... WHAT IS THE POINT OF THE 2nd PHOTO?! It is POINTLESS to calculate ANY DISTANCE AT ALL OR POSITION WITHOUT ABSOLUTE EVIDENCE OF WHEN RED DID APPEAR! and after how long! THERE IS NO EVIDENCE BUT A NUMBER ON SCREEN!? SO WHY EVEN BOTHER GIVING 2 PHOTOS THAT DO NOT EVEN SHOW THE CRUCIAL FACT AND ENTIRE POINT OF THE MOMENT THE RED LIGHT CAME ON. IT IS IN FACT A CON. A "RED HERRING" literally. It is worse than my spelling... Now i will get some evidence for traffic light times.... just been to Bristol today and i have one to measure! The fact is that IT SAYS THE TRAFFIC LIGHT TIMING IS ALLOWED TO BE INCORRECT! to 0.25 seconds each colour! that adds upto 0.75 seconds! THAT IS THE TIME I WAS INTO RED! Apparently THEY can make that error, but NOT ME! SO.. THEIR TRAFFIC LIGHT APPROACH TIMING IS ALLOWED TO BE 0.7 SECONDS DIFFERENT BETWEEN DIFFERENT CAMMERAS BY CALIBRATION ERROR! Which could EASILY LEAD TO THE EXACT TIME ERROR I ALLEDGEDLY MADE! AND THEY WILL NOT GET DONE FOR IT, IT IS ACCEPTABLE! YET THIS IS SUCH A PERFECT co_INCIDENCE TIME TO BE ABLE TO THROW PEOPLE OFF THEIR TIMING!  I claim that there is NO evidence recorded AT ALL that the light was red 0.7 seconds before the first photo and that a red light is not even significant when the law is concerned about the amber phase and the highway code about reaction & thinking times, and giving more time for different vehicles and situations.. so that there are no set numbers at all. Only that the police seem to like sending people for a magistrate to decide when or where at what speed and distance someone should decide to stop in what type of vehicle.  like the magistrate drives it and knows better than the professional driver witness? or even a copper does? yeah, right. |
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Post by Administrator on Mar 15, 2016 1:05:58 GMT
Bristol today! 14th March!
They have a Bannerman Lane as well!
i counted some traffic lights in Bristol at only 2 seconds! so i went back to time them... but there were 2 guys up a telegraph pole and as i was filming, an ambulance came past! and it takes 3 seconds to get to the lights from where I am pulled over! and you cannot tell the distance it is moving after it gets so far away! I did NOT drive that far at Macclesfield while it was on amber all the way!
original clip co-incidence..
phases seperate..
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Post by Administrator on Mar 15, 2016 21:21:35 GMT
here in Bristol..... Some kind of markings on approach to the traffic lights... as an alnce goes the other way by co-incidence again (same hour that i did the video of the other traffic lights, i was certain did only a 2 second amber phase, but when i returned half an hour later, they were back to 3 seconds again and another ambulance just as i was filming it! There are quite a few traffic light cameras in bristol and a lot of 20mph areas as well! so be carefull!  And here i get a chance on the M40 to film the times for passing over the Gatsometer road markings at different speeds...  They seem a LOT more significant to HGV length as well now for passing over that kind of distance at 56mph regularly... So you might assume you can do it at a traffic light approach if you have that distance in your mind? or the opposite?! I will just put the videos up now.... hold on.. |
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Post by Administrator on Mar 15, 2016 21:39:56 GMT
Here are the times for the Gatsometer pass at different speeds.. i will do the stopwatch by hand alongside today. because I am getting the LG phone repaired that i dropped in Cheetham Hill. So cannot film them together.  3.9sec 3.1sec 2.3sec 2.0sec 2.2sec I think I might have got the 60 & 70mph times mixed up. So it might be the 2.2 sec for 60mph & 2.0 sec for 70mph But i have not measured those motorway gatso speed camera marking strips anyway... and it was not times from the wheel or the front of the vehicle, just from the time the lines got to the bottom of the window view.... and this is an example only, for human thinking time, not for actual proper calculations.... |
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Post by Administrator on Mar 15, 2016 22:26:42 GMT
If you remember or not..or have read about the Heckmondwike traffic light "trainer" set of double lights near the traffic light camera at Spenborough.... Well I have measured that on Google maps and it is 37.45 meters just the kind of distance in question and I still claim that set up it to actually get people going through the amber using the full distance and running red! I am justry find video I did in Heckmondwike of this set of twin traffic lights and a crossing. I claim are "RIGGED" together, rather than seperate. And this is NEAR a TRAFFIC LIGHT CAMERA junction... And I have FILMED these traffic lights "TRAINING" drivers to GO THROUGH BOTH SETS EVEN WHEN THE FIRST SET IS STARTING AMBER and to "DO THE RUN" through both.... HERE now I have measured it out on google maps at about 37 and 1/2 meters... which is JUST THE DISTANCE IN QUESTION! that we are now contemplating for these amber times.. It might have been posted in this thread or the Kirklees council thread... But I should note that approaching these traffic lights is a really unique and novel view of Castle Hill, Right over in Huddersfield from 6 Lanes end... If you have ever noticed it? And its funny this nasty little traffic light trick is here, because if you take into account THIS and the M606 50Mph Camera trap.. THERE is a decent VIEW of castle hill as well, where you see Emley Moor Mast and Castle hill distance apart view! Then theres the trick speed bumps on that other Castle Hill view down into Kirkheaton & they just BLOCKED the Nice Castle Hill VIEW from the Town Centre roundabout/sainsburys With the new University designed like a fortress/citadel military base! Is it the Royal Family commanding all these orders? Or just some retarded Council leaders?! the Thandi Brothers scandal with the Pub on Castle hill? Who is behind this? the Scotts? Green Party? Royals? Retards? I do not think it is just "stupid co-incidence" I think either someone is doing it on purpose OR the same group who are messing with my phone who set me up with the speed cameras orchestrated it all... Its modern war games.. but instead.... "piss on peoples patch" game.  I will try find the video link, or go film it again, that is if the council haven't gone and changed it.... Also I don't think these traffic light cameras use the flash because I think more people are getting or have been getting done by them than we think! Here are the videos of the "trainer" near a traffic light camera to get people encouraged to run the full 37 meters! and it works! youtu.be/ydwJTUe4cQAyoutu.be/yOP2GHcmz90youtu.be/PBLAHku8ywIyoutu.be/xcjU6OI4OWEyoutu.be/XbDyWpfZxdoyoutu.be/0sdJuwd4E9Yyoutu.be/hnBLZvn2I2Yyoutu.be/Tu_1oej_1N8You probably might have read that thread already as its in this section of the forum! bentcop.boards.net/thread/29/traffic-light-camerasI hadnt noticed someone else had made some posts!? posting as a guest.. A guy saying a police guy said traffic lights have no specific timing, .. which is incorrect.. Anyway.. I thought I had disabled ALL posting.. but for some reason Gues posting was appearing when I visited the site from my other phone?! I actually have locked registration.. I dont know where the guest posting function is anyway.. So i suspect someone is just dicking with the forum, like with the van i drive and the lights.... I deleted one of the posts anyway..but have left the other one on.. I hope there are not a load more scattered around. No offence to anyone...But i am only doing this as info and opinion only, and investigation not discussion. Its for purpose of deciding if you are going to sign the petitions or not and for voting and police investigation of illegal road signs and enforcement activities. Oh & in regards to Castle Hill.. it does look "Longer" from one view a round hill from the front view... the M606 View is the view where the Mast & Hill appear widest apart.. like this google maps view of the Traffic lights, compared to the truncated "straight on" view. & if you are curious to who is or is not "interested" in Castle Hill... The BBC Programme Dr.Who.. had an episode on Galafrey or Galifrey.. with the other time Lords in it and they went through this strange thing and there was this view of this thing.. and it looked just like the "View" of castle hill lined up with Emley Moor mast from the 2 rugby post-like transmitters up on scapegoat hill.. which have been around since at least that programme.. so i think that there could be some interesting "historic" conflict of interest within the UK between different party's regarding pissing on patches and that would lead into the entire speed camera scam campaign as well.. including Brown & Blair. I really am concerned about exactly what is going on and who is doing what now.. because it is stupid.  |
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Post by Administrator on Mar 15, 2016 23:44:08 GMT
The police traffic light camera has calculated itseld wrongby 0.2mph (27mph stated) when its own calculations work out to 26.82mph or whatever... so it is not correct to the exact MPH... Also see here, it is IMPOSSIBLE to know what exact MPH you are driving at ANYWAY! at least not 26,27,28 or 29mph.. because it doesnt TELL you! its always an estimate! www.bentcop.biz/iIMAG1503.jpgThis is FACT from the speedometers that truly do not help to show exact speeds! Yet this kind of completely viable evidence.. magistrates of the Road safety partnership collaboration (not independent unbiased judges) seem to KICK TO THE SIDE, if it does even make it past the Clerk that is...  So where I am NOW with this.... is that.... If the traffic light turns AMBER while you are approaching... you DO need time to decide if it is appropriate to carry on or stop. depending on your distance evaluation. IF you decide it is the distance to carry on.... BUT you decide wrong, or in error... and the RED LIGHT comes on BEFORE you get to or cross the line... then.. in my opinion.... WHEN that RED light comes on... and you realise you might have decided wrong... THEN AT THAT POINT IS IT SAFE TO EMERGENCY STOP? I say NO. Because IF you are PAST the 23METERS HIGHWAY CODE DISTANCE (WHICH I WAS) at that TIME, according to the device.. THEN I COULD NOT STOP SAFELY. SO I WAS TO CARRY ON. So.... WAS I COMMITING AN CRIMINAL OFFENCE AND CONTRAVENTION OF A TRAFFIC REGULATION ORDER RED SIGNAL.... when the AMBER LIGHT DISPLAYED... BY... TAKING A SECONDS TO EVALUATE MY SPEED AND DISTANCE AND WHAT TO DO?! NO. I WAS NOT MAKING A CRIMINAL OFFENCE TO DO THAT. AND THE HIGHWAY CODE STATES THAT YOU DO REQUIRE THINKING TIME AS PART OF ALL ACTIONS AND DISTANCES. IT IS FACT. WHO DECIDES THE TIME AND DISTANCES? DORSET POLICE HAVE PUBLISHED A 1 SECOND TIME FOR TRAFFIC LIGHT OFFENCES. CAN POLICE GIVE TIMES THAN FOR THINKING AND STOPPING DISTANCES? OR ONLY MAGISTRATES CAN DO THAT? YES THE POLICE CAN AND SHOULD GIVE ADVCE AND GUIDANCE FOR APPROPRIATE STOPPING AND THINKING. WAS THE SITUATION AN EMERGENCY? THAT NEEDED EMERGENCY STOPPING? NO. CONCLUSION. NO CRIMINAL OFFENCE HAS OCCURED. CHESHIRE POLICE HAVE INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY TO COMPREHEND THIS INFORMATION, AND THERE IS NO REASON TO DESIRE A CONVICTION UNDER PUBLIC INTEREST. |
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Post by Administrator on Mar 16, 2016 14:26:17 GMT
The fact that you only need a flash at night time on a speed camera, and you most always see the flash go off, even in the daytime with a speed camera, has me wondering about these traffic light cameras that are the same units.
Because I HAVE, seen Someone drive straight through a red light at Aspley red light camera... And because it didn't go off....
Or appear to.
I now think that the cameras are in fact active.
And after questioning more drivers about the HGV class 2 test, and the Highway code...
And taking into account that they removed certain vehicles from the regular driving license that you can drive on it around the time I passed my test....
Has now got me thinking that the Red light cameras get a lot more HGV and vans with trailers than anyone knows about...
And that the police are infact picking and choosing who they prosecute out of the days worth of vehicles that have been recorded by the devices...
And that the number is substantial. And that many are infact long vehicles just taking time to clear the lights.
But I might be wrong... I could have seen traffic light cameras in the daytime with the flash unit going off...
I guess they can have whatever settings they want to use?
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Post by Administrator on Mar 16, 2016 17:40:33 GMT
These are the Warrington traffic lights videos, to show comparison to the Macclesfield ones as an example od different set up.
Ok, so it doesnt look far at all really, compared to Macclesfield because the Road is so Wide! ALSO, check the GREEN BIKE BOX out from here! It looks very short! nearly just a "line".. but in the other video from the side, really wide! about the distance they are saying I was before the line on RED at Macclesfield 0.7 seconds! Could the Mac lights have been set to an imaginary "Box section" for the detection?!
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Post by Administrator on Mar 16, 2016 18:18:11 GMT
Ok, so I am very concerned about being manipulated and abused by the LAW now and anonymous persons working in the Royal Mail.... I have just got a Letter through, after work from: NATIONAL RETURNS CENTRE 20 DONEGALL QUAY BELFAST BT1 1AR Saying mail has been "Returned to sender (Me) Inside this official Royal Mail envelope is... A EMPTY ENVELOPE FROM ME TO THE CROWN PROSECUTION SERVICE LIVERPOOL MERSEYSIDE that I sent to them Ages ago and paid for sending. BUT NO LETTER INSIDE IT?! It looks like my hand writing! and adressed to Liverpool CPS... the envelope is still SEALED! as if unopened! but the letter i sent to them is not inside! it looks like a paul daniels magic trick where a playing card appears inside a locked car on the windscreen, then vanishes again without opening the car!? It says reason for returning it to me is.... "Addressee gone away" what?! Has someone been intercepting my letters to the Crown Prosecution service?! how about Cheshire Police?! Are all my communications being blocked by the Royals?! ALSO IN THE ROYAL MAIL RETURNS LETTER.. IS "THE REVERSE OPPOSITE" !! This one is A LETTER FROM THE CROWN PROSECUTION SERVICE ADDRESSED TO ME, BUT NOT IN AN ENVELOPE!? "WITHOUT AN ENVELOPE" DATED 21 FEB!! THAT IS AT LEAST OVER 2 WEEKS AGO! nearly 3 weeks!?  Should I make Cheshire police Aware of this?! Have Cheshire Police Been getting any of my letters?! How about Emails?! Ive just had my "Ebay" and MX Video player "Dissapear" from my phone!? I couldnt find the Programmes anywhere!? now they have appeared again.. and My Van Lights were going funny again yesterday, the reverse light and brake light, wotrking then not working... Loads more vehicles with all kinds of lights out all over the place as well.. How an I going to get the Charges Dropped?! Is this what happened with my other letters regarding Ossett and Haslingden?! How about when West Yorkshire Police Professional Standards did not answer a signle letter for 6 month over the original Ossett bypass & IPCC complaints?! Is peoples mail getting forged, copied and duplicated?! Is this a new envelope with a copy of my handwriting? or the same one with the letter i sent removed? Are the Royals intercepting peoples letters? do Royal mail read all the letters people are sending?! The Police at Chorley Magistrates & CPS must have got the letters I sent because the CPS had the toy Stealth Bomber & Newspaper article I sent them. So they must have got all the Photos & videos & defence evidence... But they just dont "get it" intelectually or else are "stupid" or just?? I dont know... Refuse to accept it?! Like in Manchester Magistrates court... theCPS guy Read out the Bill of rights... Well... by skipping the odd word and it just went over the top of everyones head as if the words were empty & had "No meaning" or they "didnt get it" And the 3 Points he read out from Huddersfield was wrong & incorrect!? And Now Leeds Crown Court sent me the Letter with the INCORRECT offences (non endorsable pedestrian x 2) listed for 6 penalty points, which is completely wrong!? When in fact the ENTIRE CASE IS WRONG BECAUSE THE CHARGES ARE ILLEGAL AGAINST ME! Are the police even reading this website? has it been blocked? am i talking to myself on here? What is happening?! if i sent the Warrington Magistrates forms in 3 days before the hearing, will they ever even get there? will they be read out and ignored and kicked to the side like all mitigation letters seem to these days, as "empty words"  |
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Post by Administrator on Mar 16, 2016 19:54:12 GMT
I think this angle is very difficult to determine distances from. Can you know exactly which load strap the car is alongside from a random still photo from this video clip?
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Post by Administrator on Mar 16, 2016 21:57:22 GMT
This shows how the time window kind of changes over your speed / Time / Distance. The red van will make it through the traffic lights before red. But apparently the Blue van will not quite make it, unless it "speeds up" on the way. The HGV is within distance to get through before red, but its trailer probably will not clear the stop line before the Blue van. The green Van is easy within distance to get through at amber, but around the highway code point where not to stop anyway but to continue.  As soon as you increace speed or are closer you have more chance. But if you slow down or take time to decide what to do.. you loose time fast. Not certain how this illustration would work animated because its a bit more complicated... it has to do with thinking time and a constantly changing set of factors as you approach and it also really in effected by what other people are doing and how they effect your decision making. That i have not covered yet so far. |
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Post by Administrator on Mar 16, 2016 23:54:26 GMT
Here I got a few more of the DISTANCES the various traffic light cameras are installed from the STOP line... All different! So god knows the 1/2 second photo set up & radAr area (or grid) (or censors) for these... If you are told to "get used" to a road feature being a certain distance to help guide you to stopping distance, dont use these! they are all different! Is it "if you are past the camera you are ok to go? but not before it? Funny that the 23 meters Highway code given distance is "BEFORE" all these camera distances!  None are quite 23 meters! Just the distance where the camera itself might distract you from the traffic lights?! 40mph 22.3meters  40mph 16.3meters  30mph 15.9meters  30mph 15.6meters  30mph 11.7meters  40mph 13.3meters  30mph 18.7meters  30mph 20.4meters  30mph 21.2meters  30mph 12.5meters  30mph 15.7meters  30mph 15.3meters  60mph 19meters  40mph 23.2meters  40mph 14.9meters  If you use lamp post distances apart, then thats around the 34-36 meter mark and just about the maximum 30/35mph distance to get through from 3 sec amber.... What is interesting is that the TWO traffic light cameras I know of in Macclesfield... Both 30mph speed limit... BUT! One camera = 12.5 meters from stop line the other is 21.2 meters from stop line! THATS DOUBLE THE DISTANCE! for the MILL LANE ONE! So.. NO WONDER PEOPLE MIGHT THINK THEY ARE OK TO GET THROUGH FROM FURTHER BACK! because the 12.5 meter one which is only a short distance from that location is one of the closest to the stop line from this survey! |
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But my evidence says thats a loada crap because the police photo position 2 is way further than that anyway.
like the magistrate drives it and knows better than the professional driver witness? or even a copper does? yeah, right.
None are quite 23 meters! Just the distance where the camera itself might distract you from the traffic lights?!