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Post by Administrator on Feb 1, 2016 17:18:34 GMT
See! The sign says 27mph and is green, then jumps to 42mph and red! when I am only driving at 30mph steady!
This strange behavior is what I saw at Macclesfield traffic lights yesterday, when the faster "go" sequence time was seen as the "stop" sequence time! So it went green, amber for only a flicker and straight to red! Instead of the usual amber for a lot longer! But the video I filmed of it isn't on my phone now!?
These traffic equipment either malfunction or Someone is playing with the settings! And I don't believe the technician when he says the time between red and green is hard wired in, I believe that the hardware drivers and motherboards time can be altered in the traffic light bios settings.
SIMON BYRNE WHY ARE YOU SENDING ME TO A COURT IN WARRINGTON WHEN YOUR MACHINES ARE NOT WORKING PROPERLY?!
THE COURT'S HAVE TO ASK YOUR PERMISSION FOR DRIVING COURSES ANYWAY
YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO GET OUT OF RESPONDING AND DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THE ROAD SIGNS AND EVERYTHING!
I AM UNDER 1 SECOND PUBLISHED TIME WHY ARE YOU SENDING OUT N.I.P. NOTICES UNDER ONE SECOND. I DID NOT GO THROUGH A RED TRAFFIC LIGHT!
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Post by Administrator on Feb 1, 2016 20:05:40 GMT
Ok, so I am uploading the other three videos with the actual timer in them. I'm.having to borrow a laptop because my computer is totally knackered  |
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Post by Administrator on Feb 1, 2016 21:26:46 GMT
The police seem to be making the effort around Macclesfield to be putting their own signs up, even though they don't say anything!? But where there are enforcement cameras they don't bother with the traffic light warning sign! Duh!  |
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Post by Administrator on Feb 3, 2016 19:01:35 GMT
Ok, the LG phone has slowmotion playback of videos, and if you download the video below and use a slow motion program to watch it...
You will see a car at 41.2 seconds at the line
0.7 seconds later, at 41.9 seconds, the car has travelled about 6 meters. Or just under.
According to the online distance calculator it claims it should be just over 9 meters or 31ft
So, even if you toy with the measurements a bit for correction, it is NOWHERE NEAR 9 meters. As its another 3 meters. The only thing is,we do not know the cars exact speed.
But... If you do 41.2 seconds to 42.5 seconds which is the 1.28 (lets say 1.3) seconds that is my second photo...
Well, over that time 1.2 seconds the car has gone about 10 meters. And according to the online speed/distance calculators it says 15.5 meters!! Or 50ft!
And this is NOWHERE NEAR that distance!
And I measured the meters out correctly and if the phone company are selling dodgy stopwatches then every sports runner might as well throw their best times in the bin.
There is something seriously wrong with these traffic light cameras.
The entire idea and concept of only two photos over a CCTV camera?! Why?!
All the who ha with the cycle lines and where the radar starts and ends, the fact they haven't even laid out the measurements themselves, and this evidence I have that the speed reading is completely wrong
Meter intervals at Traffic lights, Mill lane with stopwatch
So..... What I will have to do is.. drive the van through the traffic lights at exactly 27mph.
Get Someone to film it...
Then take photos of the van from the side at the exact 2 positions in the police photos, and then measure the distance.
Then on the video, play it back in slow motion to see if the distance travelled correlates with the distance between photos on the police evidence for position at 0.78 seconds to position at 1.28 seconds.
So far according to my stopwatch and measurements I was apparently about 3meters before the line when the light went RED. But there is no evidence at all what colour the light was, to prove it.
And, three meters is not far. If you are at 27mph and a light goes to RED 3 meters in front you are not likely to stop in time.
Which raises the question of exactly how long the amber light was on for...
The lights are supposed to have one and 2 second times or something... 2 seconds from green to RED anyway...
So..... 3 meters before the line and you are on RED.... If the amber is on for 2 seconds before that... Then you are looking at, with my calculations.... Well Over 10 meters.
And I do not believe this camera is even set up to work out these calculations from the provided installation. Which is why I am having to check it.
I have seen different light timings so they exist contrary to what the professional witness told me. But I don't have the evidence for that as it has dissapeared.
I do have evidence for radar devices showing erratic behavior, so these devices can malfunction or me set maliciously to trick drivers
Anyway, I will get the video of the 27mph and see if the distance matches the police camera distance photos, and then we will know for certain these is error in the calibration.
But from the car in the above video it is looking that there IS something wrong with the camera or else I have a dodgy tape measure and timer.... Not unlike the one used by the police officer with PC Farley who measured my tyre depth incorrectly.
Anyway, this is just a quick look at it, as I don't have the computer! This is just with the mobile phone and a simple video player...
The times on the video are A. 41.2 for the line, then B. 41.9 and C. 42.5
That should correlate to A. Being zero, B. Being 0.7s and C. Being 1.3s ish.
And the distances were 0. Then 6M and then 10M approx.
And this is NOWHERE near the online calculator figures.
So are my measurements crap? Or the traffic light camera measurements crap?
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Post by Administrator on Feb 3, 2016 19:30:59 GMT
Also there is another major issue...
Where exactly is the place that triggers the,camera to go off? Because its not obvious.
Is it before the line, on the line or just after it?
What is the reaction time of the camera to the,radar?
And the major point is, this....
IF the radar is set up detect the front of the vehicle crossing the line while the camera is at RED, how can a radar beam detect at,what time your vehicle front area crosses over that line, when the back of your vehicle is obstructing the radar wave? And at a completely different place in space and time to the front of the vehicle which is ahead of that time? The,length of the vehicle here is critical to being able to do the calculations. And the area the radar covers as well as road markings are required.
When we are looking at times less that one second, the lack of precision that these devices give in regards to the layout is not acceptable.
Also when the same equipment is in use across the UK, and one police Constabulary publishes one set of times for prosection (over 1 second) yet a different police force sends out an N.I.P. for a time contradicting that time. (Dorset vs Cheshire)
So what is going on with that? More comparable to speed limits and signs not being consistent across the uk, to catch you out?
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Post by Administrator on Feb 3, 2016 20:00:55 GMT
Also, it doesn't really matter if the traffic lights have been on RED for 3, 5 or 8 seconds..
The DISTANCE you have traveled in the first photo will be completely different each time depending on the vehicles speed...
So if you charge through the red light on purpose at 30mph, then at 40mph and again at 50mph on three seperate occasions, but exactly at say... While the light has been red for exactly 8 seconds.... Then the first and second photos will be completely different.
What Is the time even to record?
Is my 0.7 seconds the exact time the red light has been on?
Or is it,0.7 seconds past the raDaR detected point of camera activation?
A valuable experiment for this would be to put a video camera on record on top of the traffic light camera and record the entire events.
Get a false number plate for experimental purposes and a van saying, testing in progress.
Then on a day the camera is operational...
Drive through the light at red, at different speeds... Say 10, 20 30 and 40mph. At about the same time into red.
Also at amber and you can have a stopwatch as well, then get from the video the frames when the flash goes off, and compare the timing with the lights themselves into red time and the DISTANCE.
Of course, if you had the police photos as well, to compare true into red times with on your video camera footage... It would be a bonus.
You would be sacrificing 3points potentially, but you would get the evidence.
I don't know why groups of people have not teamed up together to do this already.
Possibly why most forums are in fact infiltrated with police and solicitors anyway.
And if you think about it....
Why do you think they cycle the cameras?! Who knows which will be operational or when? To even get together to do the experiments?
And usually its far away, you can't get back over or make arrangements to meet other people there! Which is why they also do different set-up tricks! You never usually get caught by a traffic light camera in your own area, because you know them well.
The entire franchise is expertly sinister, corruption and in no way safety.
And it is our government who have choosen to torture us with these frankly defunct devices.
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Post by Administrator on Feb 3, 2016 20:15:04 GMT
There IS a CCTV camera on the junction of MILL lane, PARK green, SILK road. It could have filmed the flash going off on the fixed camera. Very convenient for it to be facing from the position on the other side of no use for red light confirmation.
The lights ARE fitted with sensors to detect approaching traffic, so in theory do know when a vehicle is approaching.
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Post by Administrator on Feb 3, 2016 23:03:50 GMT
Ok, here's the slow motion of the video clip We want to see how far the Ocado van goes in 1.3ish seconds...from the line, which is at between 43.7 to 45 seconds if you use pause to go through extra slowly. The ocado van is WELL clear of the junction section in 1.3 seconds, which is much further than the van I was driving at the same timeframe unit. Thus he is most likely going faster than 27mph. So if you consider I am moving slower than ocado. Anyway, if you rewind ocado from 45s and use the maths of 0.7 into red from the line you add 0.6 to get to 1.3 So if you subtract 0.6 from ocados 45s you get to stopwatch position 44.4s ? So.. that should in theory be a position that should correlate with the first photo from the fixed camera. And if it doesn't, then either I am crap at math or we need to look into these red light camera calibrations much more! SLOMO CHECK OCADO VAN AT 43.7 TO 45 SECONDS: Here you go.... It ends up on 444 on the stopwatch! Haha... But that's it. Back 0.6 seconds from the 1.3 seconds position which should be the backward calculation for the same position as the van in police photo 1 ?  I really need to do this with the actual van at 27mph to get better accuracy. But as you can see, at least this ocado van is not in the same position as the van I drive! So first demo calculations indicate that there is a strong chance that the calibration on the traffic light camera is a loada crap. Or else I am retarded. But I only have used 2 mobile phones so far and not the correct vehicle to re create the proper timing at the exact speed. No idea why that photo is Appearing upside down, I have put it the right way and reuploaded it but it will not turn around! Here is the rewind back the remaining 0.7 seconds  So only just exactly on the start line at 0 seconds into red! This occado van was going faster than 27mph..... So the full distance travelled will not be as far... But that also means that the van couldnt have been any further BACK really, either before the line... Thus, at 0 seconds into red I was AT the line, or already over it. But as I say, I will need to run the experiment again with the exact speed. Still no reason for Byrne to drag me through the courts with further legal abuses, when the required signage was not in place as per section .85 and N.I.P. should not have been issued under 1 second anyway. I don't see why its a court decision with technology matters. It's,the council. Courts are for excuses like.. "i was,late for delivery, which can be used as a defence." Not section .85 when you cannot even be convicted.. and should be a police stage decision on prosecution. Seeing as the police are supposed to check the signs in the first place. But choose not to. |
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Post by Administrator on Feb 4, 2016 13:11:26 GMT
Why is the time so accurate to the .1 of a second and more...or at least it claims to be, but not the vehicle speed which on all police devices is only giving the nearest Mph. Not say 30.5mph or 45.9mph
It doesn't make sense. The reason is that they don't WANT it to as it can be used to work out errors too easily. But for the traffic lights, you would get complaints over the very short changing times... 1sec and 2sec so they include more precision times, but again no road markings or speed to the decimal.
Also after doing these experiments, I have realized that in 0.4 sec at say 50mph a vehicle can go quite far... And the claimed laser pulse time of the Tele traffic, doesn't actually work that quickly, so with movement, the laser I'd going to be hitting the vehicle all different areas and in fact not hardly near as many times as you think it will, over the measuring distance.
Also I have found cycle lanes all kinds of different colours to the green ones used at Horwich Bolton wanderers stadium....
Red, green, grey and just white lines...
So it CAN be misleading at traffic lights from county to county or town to town.
I am having difficultly updating the photos now because my mobile phones are misbehaving and will not be recognized by the computer and won't charge consistently! And they keep swapping!
Someone is making it very difficult for me to update now, and this reflects the behavior of the police themselves making it very difficult for people to complain. Obtain videos, and defend themselves. At every stage they are making it hard for you....
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Post by Administrator on Feb 4, 2016 18:20:35 GMT
Ok, I have the satellite tracking speeds from the Mill lane traffic lights... 30 September 2015 at : time :
13:01 - 24mph
13:02 - 16mph
Hmmmm could I have been only going through the traffic lights at 24mph! I do remember going slower because I was checking out the location!
It could be true for the speed because that would be 3mph slower than the radar speed! And we know from the speed signs that radar can be out by 3mph easy eithet way! Up or down!
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Post by Administrator on Feb 6, 2016 20:46:55 GMT
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Post by Administrator on Feb 6, 2016 21:16:20 GMT
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Post by Administrator on Feb 7, 2016 15:59:31 GMT
I got the angle and posittion from where the actual camera is this time. and filmed 27mph, 30mph, 25mph, 10mph and 15mph through the traffic lights. But the dam video stopped recording just before i did the 25mph speed! there was also a chav kid with red track suit walking around so i had to watch the cameras. The time on my phones is correct, and the videos were recorded together at 12:30, nearly the same time of day as the actual offence allergations.. which was 1:00ish.. and you can see the sun shadow is correct in roughly the same position. Yet the LG phone time for the recording said 9:45am!? wierd. Anyway, i had a stopwatch on the display in this one and filmed it with the other, as its not on-screen. i guess you could just use a seperate stopwatch with the video yourself. but i wanted a live one as well, just to show the real-time seconds rather than with the time over playback to the recorded shutter speeds.. but at least there will be 2 referance points then. I dont have time to edit the 2 drive by's out and do a more detailed sequence yet.. but here is the video. for 27mph the first drive through i get 0.5 seconds from the position to position time... so its 0.1 second different to the police camera time. and i work out from the rewind time from the furthest forward position photo that the van i just exactly in front of the line when it alledgedly goes to red... and if you are driving at 27mph in that instance it is impossible to stop because you are upon the lights already.... the length of the vehicle as well is 2 cars long remember, and you need between 0.6 to 1 second for the vehicle to clear the line.... less for a car and that crrelates with the Dorset police 1second time for errors. The strange thing with these lights being on a radar sensor rather than set timer.. is that the lights go to red whwn there are no cars there, so when cars arrive the lights are always red and a que forms every time until there are quite a few cars. Then they set off when it goes to green. and after that it is clear... but by then the cars are gone. and by the time you have a clear run through... they are ready to go RED again, because no cars, = clear road... so if you have no cars in front (like the time i was photographed by the police camera) the lights are green ready to go red, but you are led forward by a clear road... I actually think that these lights are SET UP to go RED when its actually the best time to be driving at them. and in fact the set of lights seems to "hold cars back" whenever there are any! always a que! also from the other videos i have done a timer on the red to green phase as 2.3 seconds! and the green to red 3.3 seconds... which is longer then what i have been quoted by the Kirklees technician. Thus i have reason to believe that the lights stay in phase longer to give you that extra time to think you can get through them! and if there is no vehicle clearance time once you have made that "decision" to go through, by the extra second approach... then you will be at the line at regular speed when it goes red, and the vehicle will get caught during clearance. That extra second or so in changing speed, should be the extra second you need if you are at the line at regular speed when it goes red, for clearance time. So now i am looking into the evidence for a LONGER changing time on the lights than 2 seconds. more like 3.3 seconds to red. So... as you are approaching the lights you usually have a human estimation of if you have enough time before they are going to change... and if the time is 3.3 seconds instead of 2 seconds... then your brain can be lead to use that 1 second to decide to go through the lights, but as you get to the line they suddenly get to RED as you drive over it... and because it doesnt give the vehicle extra 1 second threshold time for a vehicle to completely clear the line... you get snapped! so they have taken away the vehicle clearance time from the DEAD POINT 0, and added that into the APPROACH time for decision making if to go through or not BEFORE red.. so you will be more likely to carry on at the same speed and as you get to the LINE .. you didnt have as much time as you thought you did and it goes red just as you are over the line! i need to get the videos up for that... but it might be a while |
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Post by Administrator on Feb 7, 2016 18:08:36 GMT
A random survey of traffic light signs on route to Macclesfield from Huddersfield
Warning sign. Location. Fixed camera.
Yes......................1.....................no
No.......................2.....................Yes
Yes......................3......................no
Yes......................4......................no
Yes......................5......................no
Yes.......................6.....................no
Yes.......................7.....................no
No........................8.....................no
No........................9.....................no
No.......................10....................no
No.......................11....................no
No.......................12....................no
No.......................13....................no
No....................14,15,16.............no
No....................17,18,19.............no
No.......................20....................Yes
No.....................21,22,23............no
No......................24-32................Yes
No..........................33..................Yes
No..........................34..................No
Yes.........................35..................No
Yes.........................36..................No
Yes.........................37..................No
No.........................30..................No
No.........................38..................No
No.........................39..................No
No.........................40..................Yes
Number of traffic light cameras on route 5
Number of traffic light cameras on route with traffic light warning sign 0
Number of traffic light cameras on route without traffic light warning sign 5
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Post by Administrator on Feb 7, 2016 20:31:34 GMT
ok so this is the video from the same time and day and location as above, but this is the phone that was filming the other phone because the other had a on screen stopwatch running (whicch doesnt appear in the recording) and i wanted a live time stopwatch, that you can have as well as another afterwards... because you might get a video that doesnt run smoothe in frame speed to real life. anyway i set it up ok, but as you will see this is not very clear like the other one which it was filming... and loads of wierd things are going on. Firstly i had to use a step ladder, but that was ok because the phones would be harder to reach while filming and me driving. but this little chav kid appeared in red track suit bottoms and kept walking past suspiciously...as if he was eying up my phones... so i had to watch for him in between driving past and turning around. THEN afterwards it turns out one phone had decided to stop recording after 6 minuted or so because it had recorded a high file size!"? what!? grr!!! so i only got pass one & 2 which was 27mph then 30mph. THIS video gets them ALL..BUT the light reflects and its difficult to see! THEN there is a mystery ghost wind blowing the camera! EXACTLY before by 30mph pass & during! so you cant see the stopwatch times! as if someone is making this really diffucult for me! it wasnt the chav kid though i dont think?! unless a hacker has a programme patch to add an special effect that looks & sounds like a screen shake?! you tell me. anyway.. the 27mph pass does seem very close time to the positions in the police photos but i get 0.5seconds between photo position 1 & 2 not 0.6 seconds.... and we still have no evidence exactly where the measurements start of finish at all. for me, still photos are useless for measurements this critical between a light being one of 3 colours in so few seconds.. you really need motion through the whole thing. and to me this devive is set up to make it HARD to see what happened and HARD to defend against.
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