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Post by Administrator on Jan 28, 2020 15:20:37 GMT
When an act (or Bill) is passed (as the 1688 Bill of Rights has)
It is to be enacted by the Kings most excellent majesty" which means.. people are supposed to be complying with it.
Including the police and CPS. And courts.
Therefore they should be applying the Right to Petition into effect. Acting it out into application.
That's the entire point.
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Post by Administrator on Jan 30, 2020 0:41:35 GMT
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Post by Administrator on Feb 2, 2020 18:04:45 GMT
WOW  So this is Amazing!! Up until 1972 they still had this old style Court doing the rounds until it was consolidated into the modern "Crown Court" can hear Criminal and Civil cases... This absolutely puts the Entire courts out of Jurisdiction where petitioning parliament is concerned.. The modern courts have a "Circuit" for example.. the North West circuit.. or North East Circuit.. the Queen (or Kings) Judges travel from court to court to hear the cases. Nowadays they do the local circuit they are assigned to. In the historical framework they would travel the entire country... sitting at each court of the full country circuit. That's the traditional meaning. The Kings/Queens Judges, Justices. The court is merely a venue. A building. To accommodate the Justices when they visit the local area to hear the listed cases. The Jurisdiction is in the actual Person . The Judge... who is appointed by the Queen or King.. meaning (Kings Bench) nowadays the Queens Bench is in the Royal Courts of Justice. But we know what the terminology means... Therefore... when you are petitioning parliament over a cause... engaged in.. All commitments and prosecutions by the (travelling Judges on their Circuits or any of the Monarchs Judges) are illegal. Because you are already engaging In a cause/case you are bringing to Parliament to debate/decide/hear. The historical context is important because there were very odd things going on with Cromwell during the Civil war a d before.. many Injustices and dubious prosecution of women, witches as well as other questionable trials. So I believe that the Rights of the Subjects was created in 1688 to ensure the public were protected from any injustices by the Kings Bench in order to resolve and very serious issues directly with parliament fairly. __________ Absolutely bewildering... Matthew Hopkins was Appointed the "Witchfinder General" by Oliver Cromwell en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_HopkinsI didn't realise that this Witch Hunting was going on same time as the Civil War. Therefore its ridiculous to know what authority they were acting under if the King was at War with the Roundheads... how was the country operating? This information says that "all standard legal procedures were bypassed" because Witchcraft was so serious and terrible. The Witch finders were not officially set by parliament but carried papers to validation of their rank and operations.. Apparently they executed estimated 300 Witches ?! If the law was being bypassed... And also certain Christian church leaders were also being prosecuted for having religious beliefs opposed to the Kings Particular faith... And added to the Civil War crimes as well.. No wonder the 1688 Bill of Rights... gave explicitly protection to the subjects (public) from the courts. Because there will have been so many atrocities |
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Post by Administrator on Feb 2, 2020 18:58:52 GMT
The modern "Police Chief" crusade against drivers...
The persecution of normal innocent people trying to get to work and home again..
Must be acknowledged as a modern equivalent of the ridiculous lengths Matthew Hopkins went to in his absurdity of hunting down these women..
The Chief officers.. have created a Trap and catch network and promoted and got people to "believe" their cause is righteous.. against the Normal regular person..
Labelling them as "bad people" , Dangerous, and setting traps for them...
While gaining titles, rewards, Honor and money from it..
To the absolute distress and harassment the public recieve from these Hunter Soliders and Solicitors picking the bones.. draining the finances of business men, a competition.
People being misled...
They are going to have to reflect on their actions. Because their delusions of acting for safety and for the public are not honest in full light of the facts.
Which are that people have been bullied and an entire cause has been manufactured to justify what the Chief officers have done..
Particularly Manchester.. M60 Sir Peter Fahy.. Breadbury.. absolutely pure Male Hunting set up. And the Chief officers have been above the law... literally psycho.
Psycho police chiefs. As if they are Lords yet they break every rule and regulation to set their schemes up.
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Post by Administrator on Feb 2, 2020 19:11:12 GMT
Why did Cromwell have these Witch Finders focused around the East Anglia area? Which is where he was from?
Something unusual going on...
His own religious experience..
The Civil War....
Apparently parliament were not fully aware or fully Endorsing these witch trials and certain methods were stopped or banned...
I think there were clearly lots of miscarriages of justice. And after the Civil War...
It clearly was decided... after Cromwell Died and the public still were at unease..
That some sort of Rights needed to be established to protect against the courts.. so that people could actually of their own Right bring a matter to Parliament.
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Post by Administrator on Feb 5, 2020 16:14:46 GMT
Very informative back story and setting for events leading upto the 1688 Bill of rights
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Post by Administrator on Feb 5, 2020 19:40:53 GMT
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Post by Administrator on Feb 5, 2020 19:51:11 GMT
Hmmmm According to this Hopkins (Hopkings) was a minister. But also Cromwell's head of secret service. So no idea why, in this film version they have the Roubdheads versus the Witchfinder as according to this literature.. The witchfinder was on the same side as Cromwell's Roundheads. Although it was the king who had material on Demonology.. It seems to me like during the chaos of the Civil war... this was an excuse to take a load of extra money and get rid of a load more people.. Seems like a mini version of the Hitler and Jews type thing.. I think Cromwell wanted to fund and build and train an army. Also get rid of powerful persons by actually using the law itself as a evil power and force over people that would essentially take away their personal power by making it lawfully to kill them and bypass the courts. Its questionable if Cromwell was the Protector of the common people at all. As they were plundered and harmed by both sides... cavaliers and Roundheads.. Did parliament create the entire rouse to give excuse to a power cull?? Similarly to the police and courts going after people's money and driving licences unless they are "party supporters who get assisted. I think it's a power battle to tread opposition underfoot. |
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Post by Administrator on Feb 6, 2020 3:09:22 GMT
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Post by Administrator on Feb 6, 2020 22:41:33 GMT
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Post by Administrator on Feb 6, 2020 23:22:38 GMT
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Post by Administrator on Feb 6, 2020 23:27:07 GMT
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Post by Administrator on Feb 7, 2020 20:49:08 GMT
Some people are saying Cromwell was not present or on that list, at the time...
I don't get where the army's came from???
Or how 2 separate sides managed to obtain armies when they are not located far away from each other? Was it more of a "Division" of the forces? Into 2 sides?
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Post by Administrator on Feb 8, 2020 22:49:35 GMT
I think the main current issue with parliament and its various committees..
Is that positions are taken up by the members of the franchise party that has formed the current Government. And the opposition are also a large Franchise party.
They have their own interests as priority
And they seem to ignore, override or argue away many existing laws, functions and rights that the public are eligible to use.. simply because they don't want the public to use them, or the public wants to do things that aren't in line with the franchise policy.
(Its desires) so the public are denied of rights and perfectly valid procedures and yes, the protections they lawfully are entitlement to...
This is a sad product of franchise party politics as opposed to independents and true purposes of democratic rights and voting
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Post by Administrator on Feb 9, 2020 0:41:02 GMT
This is the main thing that is highly frustrating and a major problem with the intelligence and attitude of the Police and Crown prosecution service...
The Criminal procedure rules, part 1...
Absolutely do NOT say, or give instructions
1. To challenge and enter Civil dispute against peoples rights claims.
Or
2. To treat a rights claim as, or regard a rights claim as a defence against a criminal charge. Or as a mitigation factor in a guilty plea.
Nope.
The Criminal Procedure rules part 1 does explicitly say, instruct and give directions to (the authorities) and any party involved in any part of any stage of legal proceedings to.....
RECOGNIZE (and obviously apply into effect) the rights of any defendants where claimed.
Where exercised, where given notice of
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