Post by Administrator on Jun 2, 2019 16:15:43 GMT
Ok..
So i have now had opportunity to evaluate some Magistrates and District Judges.
A small number of these People i have found to be good. As in i believe they are more or less genuine and of good intent and fair.
But the majority of these persons who become accustomed to these roles i have found suffer from these following problems..
And they are conduct and behavioural problems.. But the Local advisory committee do not seem to want to accept these issues as such. Or do not have the cognitive capacities to understand and identify the issues as being as such.
Which i would say is for certain a human problem between different types of humans. (if i am honest)
A large failure is the actual justice system which is against the defendant from the start. And designed to obstruct and deter if not prevent communication and truth and knowledge and facts from being communicated, from being communicated at the right time. Fully, clearly and being given rightful attention and clarification.
Which is a major failing of the justice system and its claim to seek fairness and justice.
In truth its a huge failure and perversion of justice the current way this system is being used by its current staff and associates. The people working in this system have been effected by their positions and become corrupted by habbit, their own intent and own agendas. And in light of this, i don't feel that currently its possible to achieve justice in a fair and honest, righteous process. Because that no longer exists.
Worse is that a Professional standards officer came to visit me yesterday and even he (after commending me for my work) admitted that the courts are more of a game. And he himself doesn't really understand what they do and why they do it.
Taking this into account.. The manipulation of fees and solicitors cost and the strict control over communication and work by solicitors. Is extremely defeating. Poor people are given just enough financial help to get them through.. Even being told what ple to make, while the Rich help themselves with ridiculous fees nobody else can afford.
The middle class come off the worst. Because they can't really afford the solicitors fees either, but they don't get any help at all with legal costs and get taken advantage of the most by fees. With money that could be used to help more people and make a difference. They have desire and intent to want to do things for people but are being priced out.
With money that should be able to cover a hearing, trial and appeal...
They are being charged for one of those only as if it were an entire case.
So what should cover an entire case is now being charged for only one hearing.
Also the high prices and fees.. Do not justify the skills and quality of the work. The solicitors do know practice and procedures but they are falling way way short of the standard, of intelligence and understanding of law and practice.
I believe the Judge’s and magistrates also bully the solicitors somewhat and the solicitors and lawyers seem fearfull of them. I don't believe enough complaints are made. But also the solicitors need money and cases so don't always act in the interest of their clients and definitely not in the interest of the general public.
Also there are 3 main issues with the majority of Judges.
1. They don't want to understand.
To learn what is being presented you need to be keen to understand and listen. And communication both ways, of everything without missing anything or leaving anything out.
A magistrates powers and a Judges powers come from their authority to make their own opinions and minds up. The less information and details, less understanding presented.. The more power a Judge of magistrate has over a decision.
Therefore the more details, the more understanding, the more evidence and communication given at a trial or hearing.. Gives more clarity to a case and more facts and more points of law.
The more and more of this given... The less and less power and authority a Judge himself (or herself) has. Because there is less uncertainty.
True that it could be there is more certainty for the prosecution... But the type of certainty a prosecutor relies on is about as detailed and intelligent as a used car salesman. Extremely basic.
Its the defence whom are deprived of their evidence and points, legislation, clarity and communication.
So.. I think from before you even go into a court room..
A. The Judge has not bothered to evaluate all of the material submitted (most likely not interested and does not want to) and apparently doesn't have to either.
B. The Judge doesn't understand something you've mentioned. And refuses to anything more about it (whats that got to do with it)
If the judge allows you to help him/her understanding of something you put to the court.. Then you are in fact influencing their own personal power and authority and decision making powers. Because literally.. If you are able to help them understand.. You are practically getting them to agree.
So.. Magistrates and Judges absolutely don't want to understand and don't want to know. Usually not interested.
They like to lead people to believe that they are there to. But for the aforementioned reasons.. They in fact don't want to. Because practically its possible for a matter to be resolved at a first hearing to save time and costs of these extremely basic and primary school standard presentations that are very formally dressed to seem intelligent and mature.. Yet the actual reality is that extremely basic details are assimilated. And its likely that your own full evidence and materials sent by post or email are "too good" for the court trial and therefore never get full credit, presentation or use. Which is unfortunate due to the time and money people put into this in their own time.. Hours and hours.. When literally hardly anything from that work gets benefited from.
I guess this is why the Lord Hanningfield presentation is only 6 page's long.
But ive done similar length work as well.
I just don't think the court likes it.
It wants to do what it wants to do.
C.
Cognitive ability.
Not all magistrates or Judges have the true ability to understand. They may have qualifications, degrees, awards.. But they may not be able to see the connection between example or principle.
Or cause and effect.
Also its a matter of taste and opinion.
We have jury's made up of the general public so there is a mixture of attitude and opinions of what is right and what is acceptable behaviour.
Judges and magistrates usually are from and associate with their own class and peers and this has effect in shaping their general attitude and opinion overthe course of their careers.
So those are the maim principles at play.
I don't know what your own opinion and experience is with courts, if any.
I know that they seem quiet and less people in them and many are closing down.
A lot of people don't bother turning up.
I went to North Allerton and there were only 4 cases that day the guard said, when i visited to deliver a letter. And only one defendant turned up.
So it seems there is, after Calderdale magistrates court closing down as well.. Less courts around operating now.
So i have now had opportunity to evaluate some Magistrates and District Judges.
A small number of these People i have found to be good. As in i believe they are more or less genuine and of good intent and fair.
But the majority of these persons who become accustomed to these roles i have found suffer from these following problems..
And they are conduct and behavioural problems.. But the Local advisory committee do not seem to want to accept these issues as such. Or do not have the cognitive capacities to understand and identify the issues as being as such.
Which i would say is for certain a human problem between different types of humans. (if i am honest)
A large failure is the actual justice system which is against the defendant from the start. And designed to obstruct and deter if not prevent communication and truth and knowledge and facts from being communicated, from being communicated at the right time. Fully, clearly and being given rightful attention and clarification.
Which is a major failing of the justice system and its claim to seek fairness and justice.
In truth its a huge failure and perversion of justice the current way this system is being used by its current staff and associates. The people working in this system have been effected by their positions and become corrupted by habbit, their own intent and own agendas. And in light of this, i don't feel that currently its possible to achieve justice in a fair and honest, righteous process. Because that no longer exists.
Worse is that a Professional standards officer came to visit me yesterday and even he (after commending me for my work) admitted that the courts are more of a game. And he himself doesn't really understand what they do and why they do it.
Taking this into account.. The manipulation of fees and solicitors cost and the strict control over communication and work by solicitors. Is extremely defeating. Poor people are given just enough financial help to get them through.. Even being told what ple to make, while the Rich help themselves with ridiculous fees nobody else can afford.
The middle class come off the worst. Because they can't really afford the solicitors fees either, but they don't get any help at all with legal costs and get taken advantage of the most by fees. With money that could be used to help more people and make a difference. They have desire and intent to want to do things for people but are being priced out.
With money that should be able to cover a hearing, trial and appeal...
They are being charged for one of those only as if it were an entire case.
So what should cover an entire case is now being charged for only one hearing.
Also the high prices and fees.. Do not justify the skills and quality of the work. The solicitors do know practice and procedures but they are falling way way short of the standard, of intelligence and understanding of law and practice.
I believe the Judge’s and magistrates also bully the solicitors somewhat and the solicitors and lawyers seem fearfull of them. I don't believe enough complaints are made. But also the solicitors need money and cases so don't always act in the interest of their clients and definitely not in the interest of the general public.
Also there are 3 main issues with the majority of Judges.
1. They don't want to understand.
To learn what is being presented you need to be keen to understand and listen. And communication both ways, of everything without missing anything or leaving anything out.
A magistrates powers and a Judges powers come from their authority to make their own opinions and minds up. The less information and details, less understanding presented.. The more power a Judge of magistrate has over a decision.
Therefore the more details, the more understanding, the more evidence and communication given at a trial or hearing.. Gives more clarity to a case and more facts and more points of law.
The more and more of this given... The less and less power and authority a Judge himself (or herself) has. Because there is less uncertainty.
True that it could be there is more certainty for the prosecution... But the type of certainty a prosecutor relies on is about as detailed and intelligent as a used car salesman. Extremely basic.
Its the defence whom are deprived of their evidence and points, legislation, clarity and communication.
So.. I think from before you even go into a court room..
A. The Judge has not bothered to evaluate all of the material submitted (most likely not interested and does not want to) and apparently doesn't have to either.
B. The Judge doesn't understand something you've mentioned. And refuses to anything more about it (whats that got to do with it)
If the judge allows you to help him/her understanding of something you put to the court.. Then you are in fact influencing their own personal power and authority and decision making powers. Because literally.. If you are able to help them understand.. You are practically getting them to agree.
So.. Magistrates and Judges absolutely don't want to understand and don't want to know. Usually not interested.
They like to lead people to believe that they are there to. But for the aforementioned reasons.. They in fact don't want to. Because practically its possible for a matter to be resolved at a first hearing to save time and costs of these extremely basic and primary school standard presentations that are very formally dressed to seem intelligent and mature.. Yet the actual reality is that extremely basic details are assimilated. And its likely that your own full evidence and materials sent by post or email are "too good" for the court trial and therefore never get full credit, presentation or use. Which is unfortunate due to the time and money people put into this in their own time.. Hours and hours.. When literally hardly anything from that work gets benefited from.
I guess this is why the Lord Hanningfield presentation is only 6 page's long.
But ive done similar length work as well.
I just don't think the court likes it.
It wants to do what it wants to do.
C.
Cognitive ability.
Not all magistrates or Judges have the true ability to understand. They may have qualifications, degrees, awards.. But they may not be able to see the connection between example or principle.
Or cause and effect.
Also its a matter of taste and opinion.
We have jury's made up of the general public so there is a mixture of attitude and opinions of what is right and what is acceptable behaviour.
Judges and magistrates usually are from and associate with their own class and peers and this has effect in shaping their general attitude and opinion overthe course of their careers.
So those are the maim principles at play.
I don't know what your own opinion and experience is with courts, if any.
I know that they seem quiet and less people in them and many are closing down.
A lot of people don't bother turning up.
I went to North Allerton and there were only 4 cases that day the guard said, when i visited to deliver a letter. And only one defendant turned up.
So it seems there is, after Calderdale magistrates court closing down as well.. Less courts around operating now.