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Post by Administrator on Jan 27, 2017 0:21:30 GMT
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Post by Administrator on Jan 28, 2017 17:55:05 GMT
The American White House "We the people" petitions website VS HM Government petitions regulations. Should be the same. But they are not upholding the Right to Petition in UK parliament petitions committee. Also Youtube are not upholding my account protection in law.
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Post by Administrator on Jan 28, 2017 19:34:05 GMT
So, my friend is promoting one of the the HM government petitiosn that is still taking sponsorship signatures.. but hasnt been fully activated yet.. And she put 3 posts out about it and she says its had 38 clicks to go to the sign page. But i have only had one new sign up since... so I have a strong feeling somebody is blocking the signatures.. Also very strange things going on with my emails, changing after i have read them.. and things.. So im 100% certain people are dicking with things and it no surprise with all the road sign police gun dicking around and Court magistrates dicking around in front of me as well in court just as much as when you are not there and send your documents in... So... The PM and President, photgraphed nicely today holding hands is a perfect political defiance that they are going to stick together in this.. in my opinion the Governments are totally bent. And if they cannot make laws that they cannot and will not follow themselves then why lay them down in the first place??
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Post by Administrator on Jan 29, 2017 13:13:02 GMT
Hmmmmm
Just had a signature from a
Sue Van der veen
This is only one signature from apparently 38 clicks on the links to visit the sign up page.. So im told..
So i think there is something strange going on. 14 signatures so far. One since the new promotion. 5 to activate it. But its not been either activated or rejected.
Also... I got an email from the We the People white house site.. Saying my petition was good to start!! But it hasnt been activated on site to sign yet.
They also dont publish it for everyone to see on the website to sign.. Until you get 150 signatures. So only people you email or post the link to will know about it.
Seems to me like another defensive counter measure.
Similar to parliament. How do you know if its being hacked and signatures blocked?
Also something very unusual with the HM gov top petitions list.. As theres a Chris Packham petition there and they only run for 6 months.. Yet im certain i saw that petition over 6 months ago. And the top petition last time i looked was the government anti surveillance one that was being featured on some porn sites!! Thats got the most signatures!!
You only need 12,000 to get onto that page. The facebook truck stop woman got 3150 signatures from groups but its slowed down now...
It seems its hard to get it activated. I was doing OK until i attached the evidence. Now they dont want to do it.
And they didnt activate the bentcop.biz ones where i didnt use my own name. Even though on the White House government website you CAN petition on behalf of an organization! Doesnt have to be one person draughting the petition and submitting it..
So we have the exact same stand off with parliament as i got from every other department and decision maker... They just refuse to do it. Will not act. Even though you can do it and are correct.
Its an old mexican stand off. The good the bad and the ugly.
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Post by Administrator on Jan 29, 2017 16:56:51 GMT
Ok.. Check this out... 26th January i get tbis email from admin@whitehouse saying my petition has been published. And i have only 30 days to get 100,000 signatures. Also it will not show up on the website as a searchable petition listed until i get 150 signatures. So i have to facebook and email people to get 150 first..
But its already been 3 days and the sign page isnt even working yet! Says they are updating the system.
I know the US has many more people than the UK and bigger social media groups... But still 6 months is a hella short time to get 100,000 sign ups especially if you work. As i said.. 8 hours a day... 1 signature per minute.. So only 30 days for the US petition seems a very difficult task!
I have to wait until it actually even works first for the sign page!!
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Post by Administrator on Jan 30, 2017 15:21:02 GMT
So, i thought i would also mention this... as i only just found out... I didnt know Fiona Bruce was an Conservative MP. I posted before in another thread.. that I was in Warrington area Listening to the Local Radio.. and an advert came on for "Road traffic defence lawyer" Fiona Bruce company. no, not the Antiques Roadshow celebrity.. This is a Solicitor Husband and Wife Duo based in Warrintgon.. Because i was going to contact them to do some work for one of my cases, the Macclesfield one.. (This is before the Runcorn and Macclesfield magistrates courts closed down) i think.. Anyway.. when i actually looked at the fiona Bruce website i couldnt find Road traffic or Driving defence anywhere on the website... I ended up going to that Aurora place or whatever its called in Crew and a guy called Tony who i discovered didnt know about law at all or was a major blagger because he claimed i had no defence for my seatbelt with Steve Finnegans prosecution, but he was totally wrong. Really i was kinda testing him out to see if he was full of bullshit and he was. (i believe so) Anyway.. i was just going through the MPs email list yesterday and im like... WHAT! Theresa May has got this Solicitor Fiona Bruce batting for her side now! So, dont ask how this all ties in and and motive or strategy behind this under all the other surrounding circumstances.... But we have people now as MPs who have had an active part in these road traffic cases & prosecutions & defences!! Also i noticed the Sinn Fein MP had a comedy like expression in his photograph & I could not but help think of my Missing letter to Crown Prosecution servive Liverpool Cheshire (near Warrington) and the letters ending up in Bellfast! and the Photograph of Gerry Adams or whoever it was Shaking Hands with Prionce Charles over a Tea Cup. So.. just saying.. MPs can pull strings.. just like Cyril MPs famous special detectives turning up & removing evidence from police station files. Held against MPs. www.fionabruce.co.uk/Fiona Bruce does do charity, but i cannot see Motoring law listed on her website anymore. Though i expect she will be one of Theresa Mays right hand woman in all this Now. And i dont think its moving away from a corrupt system, because a guy on youtube "Ninja" (whos posts have vanished) commented on my video the other day... he claimed he got done by the Macclesfield camera recently similar circumstances to me. I asked him to get the photographs.. then mysteriously i couldnt find his posts and my messages / replies were still there! wierd. Also the 2 courts closing down.. i believe its all connected.. as well as the BBC CPS programme with Claire Lindley. But the BBC did the 5 live podcast which supports my petition claims.. thought the BBC say they are not biased in position.. they are reporting the odd event to cover themselves. And reporting it honestly and correctly.. but they just will not put it all together and educate, inform and entertain the public about the real extent of this. Which i think they should be doing. (with me excluded personally) I dont know for certain what they are playing at but it is for 100% certain connected. Without doubt some strategy either way... And it not looking like the way it should be going at the moment. Especially as many Crown Court cases with expensive lawyers should have been heard at the magistrates, not Crown courts.. when disqualification matters were being heard.. because there is a special Road traffic act law and procedure in relation to what court you lost your licence at and in some circumstances it had to be appealed at the same court it was heard at. (depending on if that court did or didnt have the powers to make the original conviction/disqualifications) I put all this in complaints to all parties but to no avail. So just like Sam Goozee fraudulently giving incorrect documents and papers in my case at Huddersfield, then being promoted for it.. Here we have Fions Bruce as an MP, now next to Theresa May! We dont know any more other details except its connected.. (i think so) but i havent looked to see if she was an MP at the time i heard the radio advertisement in Cheshire.. The lost post: Secrets of the warehouse where 20 MILLION undelivered items have ended up
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Post by Administrator on Jan 30, 2017 17:33:49 GMT
So... I signed one of my 5 petitions that are not full activated...
I signed it in for my brother for genuine test to see if its still working and it did work...
Its got 7 sign ups now...
But my friend just tried to sign it for me tonsee if its working for her... And she says she has mot yet recieved a comfirmation email... So it might not be working. So it could explain why she has clocked 300-400 visits to sign vis her links.. But i havent had and new sign up emails!! So it could well be being obstructed somehow.
Ive just signed the Trump petition thats been on the cover of all the newspapers today.. Its got over 1.3million signatures and is going up by hundreds every second!
I think the FBI or Mi5 are messing with these... its got to be a set up..
Heres a petition video argument (age restricted)
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Post by Administrator on Jan 31, 2017 13:42:34 GMT
Hmmmm
Ok. I'm officially looking into sign up authenticity now for HM Government petitions. And doing some experiments.
If you cannot be prosecuted for petitioning.. Could an MP be protected for adding false sign ups to their petitions? Or without consent?! Or is that a loophole?
You can only enter an email address once. Into the system for each petition.
But there are many people with the same name.
You could enter 10,000 peoples genuine postcode and name and real email... And send the signature request to them. And they could decide if to complete/officially sign the petition.
That is a way it can be done sort of legitimately. But if you have the email.. Might as well mail them directly.
The map shows number of postcodes for each sign up.. But is is linked to the electoral register to check authenticity and address?
For example.. We got mail yesterday for the Previous occupant of this house! We k ow them.. But they occasionally get letters here still as some places still have the old address!
I'm sorry but I just entered my Grandma who recently passed away last Year... And it accepted the signature. This is for genuine official testing on the HM.Gov system. I'm not trying to cheat.
So... Could someone who had a list of 10,000 deceased people enter the details? To get a low key petition through parliament?
:/
I think it's a lot easier if it actually gets activated so you can even start collecting...
But now the government are dabbling in rejecting petitions and even ignoring 1 million + signature petitions... I sorry they are going to steal our right and opinions away from us.. So they can continue their deceptive plans and outrageous new regulations and schemes.
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Post by Administrator on Jan 31, 2017 14:41:15 GMT
Hmmmm...
Ok so my friend said the sign up worked for her now...
So.... I wonder why the other 300+ clicks on her promotions directly to sign havent come through?
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Post by Administrator on Jan 31, 2017 15:28:45 GMT
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Post by Administrator on Feb 2, 2017 0:58:40 GMT
Ok... So...
The promotion experiment for my petition with the HM Gov site has has 944 clicks so far.. And 666 of them are from the UK visitors!! I would give you the tracking link ... But its got my details on and i preder to promote the petition straight to the Parliament site with this forum evidence attached...
Its not even been fully activated yet.. But people are interested enough to click on it..
Also getting more delayed MP auto responders... Emails strangely being delayed...
Could possibly be whats happening to my petition signatures??
The all powerfull underground UK ninjas... Pop up accidents and newspaper storys to order... ?
The genius of the masters of the corporate kingdom. Is there a Q. An IQ and a Low Q. And a Low IQ in charge?? :/
Cyril squad. Sam Goozee paper theif. The A yeam.. Or the D team? Y team. P team and F.
Mabe the Auto responder is only sent when rhey trigger it manualy?
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Post by Administrator on Feb 2, 2017 16:11:31 GMT
Interesting..... I just sent a NEW email.. to half of the MPs.. and i got automatic responder emails straight away from nearly all of them i think.... This was a direct complaint about the petitions committee and a few things.. By the Right to Petition.. I wonder if the other email actually requesting them to sign my petitions was actually sent then? as i only got a handfull of auto responders that time... We will see..
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Post by Administrator on Feb 3, 2017 1:25:48 GMT
This webpage shows some nice pir charts of the 1 3rd of uk Citizens who dont vote... www.votenone.org.uk/uk-unheard-third.htmlI think it works well for Labour and Conservative that these people dont vote. Can you imagine if 20 million people just suddenly got pissed of and signed a petition to say.... "We vote that politicians are a set of lying cheating criminals and we vote them all out" Labour and conservative would have to vote together against it to get the majority.. And with 1,2 and 3 million signatures hanging in the ether... You just never know when the political lightning might strike.. With a radical new smartphone storm...
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Post by Administrator on Feb 3, 2017 19:39:04 GMT
Wow.. I just got an email from the White House as im subscribed while i wait for my petition to be started with "We the people" site...
Somehow i dont think Sam Goozee, David Bellairs or Sean Harris or the Ministry of Justice support this movement..
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Post by Administrator on Feb 5, 2017 12:31:20 GMT
The petitions committee are out of order now.
Did some forum posts and got 20 signatures immediately.. But i think it shuts off at 20 signatures... So unless its activated you are obstructed from getting all the signatures while its in sponsorship mode.. Toi can only get 5-20 signatures.
We did a petition for the government to buy Emley moor mast to make it into a World Games centre. And open it up so the public can see the view as well.
It would be perfect for Games Workshop. Only they have changed their name to Warhammer.
Its a perfectly legitimate petition. And petitioning is about what people want. It can be anything.
Its no different to asking for more truck stops.
The Millenium Dome is a complete total waste of money.. But somebody wanted it. The Government built it.
So..we spent time and money promoting the petition.. I got 20 signatures.. And the petitions committee have just rejected it claiming its a joke or an advert.
But how can a petition NOT mention or be on behalf of a company? There are petitions about British Airways for example.
The petitions committee are shattering peoples hopes and dreams... And they are in fact.. Just picking and choosing as they fancy.. There is now no regulations they are even following.
I am going to have to get a Lawyer i think.
Anyway.. The petition got rejected between yesterday and today.. So they are in at weekends..
Also.. Still no rejection of my 5 other police corruption petitions... Which have been waiting ages now and all have over 5 signatures...
Does anyone know the best Non expensive Lawyer who is not biased towards HM Government? Preferably one who has nothing what so ever do do with speed cameras.
Why are they using an example of describing a pastry lid on the website? Then claiming people are not serious?
I really do not want them to make a mess of this country any more... You cannot even defend what buisness are doing to our buildings and places... The right to petition is your legal right to appeal to the public.
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